How do you get out at all?
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December 2nd, 2009 10:38 AM
December 2nd, 2009 11:14 AM
Moderation is the key.
There's a huge difference between situational awareness and paranoia, but everyone has to find out for themselves where the line is. I mean, who am I to tell the guy who feels the need to do perimeter patrols of his property that he's right or wrong?
If it makes him feel better, so be it. To me it's excessive. Then again, I've not had the same life experiences he has had or live in the same neighborhood he does.
Personally, I don't think we've got many members here who really are part of the "tin foil hat" club. I believe the majority of the membership here are responsible, hard working adults who are only interested in keeping themselves and their families safe.
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December 2nd, 2009 11:23 AM
ccw9mm - As long as you catch my drift of the necessity for practice as well as making an honest attempt to become as quick and as accomplished as possible then I'm cool with that and you don't have to leave yours at home.
December 2nd, 2009 12:06 PM
Ahhh, yes.....pistol-fightin' snobbery.
Originally Posted by QKShooter
Wild Bill Hickock was arguably the greatest pistol-fighter of his day and had proved it numerous times. He was killed by a young, inexperienced guy who simply came up behind him and shot him dead while he sat at cards.
As others have stated - a gun is a tool. You don't have to be an ace carpenter to be allowed to use a hammer. That's why we have a Second Amendment.
What about those stories of an old lady with an antique wheel gun putting attackers on the run or leaving one or two dead in the hallway?
Unlike the Hollywood version of life, the pistol is a defensive weapon that can be employed by your average person in a life-threatening situation. Is practice desirable? Sure.
If you want to live your life preparing for a gunfight, have at it. Me - not so much. I practice and visit the range several times a year. However, I am not spending my free time playing Quickdraw McGraw.
My personal likelihood of even needing my ccw for self-defense is rather low, and now add in all kinds of other factors, and the odds become infinitesimal. I spend an hour and half at the gym five times a week. I think that will do more to prolong my life than playing with my sidearm. YMMV.
December 2nd, 2009 12:30 PM
December 2nd, 2009 12:42 PM
I guess a lot of this just depends on your life experience. It just makes sense to take a few precautions. The precautions I take have some real life experience behind them but don't prevent me from enjoying the things I like to do. You don't have to let it dominate your life but it can help you live. Our part of town is sliding down hill and some apartments a block away went 'section 8' not too long ago. Ever had your home broken into? Car? Something stolen from your yard? Ever been threatened or attacked? Ever stared down the wrong end of a gun barrel, losing your car in the process? All of these happened to me (in different parts of the country), mostly when I was young, naive and totally unprepared. Back then I thought all the "personal-security" & gun-nuts folks were just paranoid too. I loved that pic of the kitty's protection! For the record, I don't have a tinfoil hat...
Originally Posted by bladenbullet
It's a helmet.
...he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36
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December 2nd, 2009 01:25 PM
One of the great truths the USMC taught me. I will die. No option there. How I live is my option.
Originally Posted by boscobeans
or a mine or a artillery round, or some bad food, or some bug w/ 2 letters & 2 numbers for a name once a pig flew.
Originally Posted by Beans
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference.
Originally Posted by PaxMentis
IMHO, the courage to change the things I can includes taking reasonable precaution and includes being reasonably prepared -- taking responsiblity from fire alarms, fire extinguishers, home insurance to CC.
Were I were paranoid I'd never drive/ride in a car -- a great danger to life & health.
However, I do drive and I wear a seatbelt for the same reason that I carry -- simultaneously and for that same reason.
I'm just one root in a grassroots organization. No one should assume that I speak for the VCDL.
I am neither an attorney-at-law nor I do play one on television or on the internet. No one should assumes my opinion is legal advice.
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December 2nd, 2009 02:35 PM
I find that most of the "what if" threads on this site (and others) are based more on the perception that life is like a video game.
I'm sad to see that people even equate life with SoCom4000.
I personally have been threatened and deal daily with real criminals and other mentally unstable people. Yet I sit with my back to the door of the restaurant and go to the mall and other places without fear. I don't cower in the corner of my "safe room" either. Heck, I can even work in my garage with the door open and my back to the street for hours on end wearing earmuffs and never looking around.
Why? Because I LIVE my life the way I want to. Not because of the possibility that some slimeball might decide to pick me out of the crowd and hurt me. I carry a gun so that I can fight back if necessary and I avoid situations where that may happen as best I can. What I don't do is slink around in fear and barricade myself away from living my life to it's fullest extent.
December 2nd, 2009 02:44 PM
I mean it is a defensive carry forum. And there are degrees of what I like to call healthy paranoia. Truth be told, we don't live in the same world anymore. We were a lot safer back in the hippie days. And having someone to watch your back might be a good thing in some cases. Think about those 4 Police Officers we've all been reading about. Nice coffee shop in a nice part of town. You always hear witnesses talking about how nothing like that could ever happen "here". It's always unimaginable till it happens. There are parameters for living life now, you just have to decide what's best for you. God bless those 4 and their families. What say we all watch each others backs.
December 2nd, 2009 03:20 PM
Sounds about just right to me.
Originally Posted by wvshooter
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December 2nd, 2009 04:35 PM
Good comments above. Great Points. Really its about common sense and moderation. Its unreal to be on edge all the time, but good practice to avoid leaving stuff where you know theft is common. Most of my life (I'm 67 now) I have been fortunate to be able to avoid areas that read "danger" in my subconscious.
Most people are pretty fine. Yet there are a few - my brother was the victim of armed robbery, a friend a victim of armed robbery, a purse snatcher I once chased, three bicycles stolen over the years, so it is reasonable to be prepared. No need to give a scumbag an even break.
December 2nd, 2009 04:38 PM
One thing I tell my students is be cautious not paranoid. I agree with you that some folks seem a little overboard but I don't know the neighborhood they live in either. People should realize that a violent crime can happen anywhere to anyone but you still need to live your life.
DEMOCRACY IS TWO WOLVES AND A LAMB VOTING ON WHAT TO HAVE FOR LUNCH. LIBERTY IS A WELL ARMED LAMB CONtestING THE VOTE.
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December 2nd, 2009 04:46 PM
Being paranoid (whatever that may mean to each of us) bothers me less than the attitude that can go with it. "You don't have 200 gal water and 2 years of food stocked up? You only have 1000 rds of ammo? Whatta ya gonna do when the zombies come? You're stupid."
As has been said several times, we all pick and choose, and adapt into a level of self-defense comfort that is different for each of us.
Just don't look down on others for being comfortable with a different level of preparedness. I see a lot of that here.
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December 2nd, 2009 05:35 PM
December 2nd, 2009 05:36 PM
QFT. That all sounds like an appropriate strike of balance between being prepared and relaxed. Paranoia, and words like it that have loaded meanings within the context of personal protection are entirely subjective. My alert state is probably someone's relaxed state, and for good reason. Who cares? I know how ugly this world is first hand, and using the knowledge of how attacks begin to avoid certain vulnerabilities and being ready to handle the bovine mano y mano if those precautions fail is not being paranoid at all. Violence is a very real part of life these days and I accept it. Nothing more.
Originally Posted by logan
I absolutely do a perimeter check before bed to verify that windows and doors are locked, and that exterior lighting is on. Then set the alarms. Stage my torch, cell, and combat pistol on the night stand. Shoes next to and car keys on the dresser. I take out a long gun every night, and replace it in the morning. You get the picture. The routine is as normal as getting dressed after showering or putting on my gun in the morning .
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makes an appointment.
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