Discussion with my Dr. about "One Bad Apple"

This is a discussion on Discussion with my Dr. about "One Bad Apple" within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by aric Did you verify this with local records? Sounds like the doctor had a canned response story for the sign. I have ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aric View Post
    Did you verify this with local records? Sounds like the doctor had a canned response story for the sign.
    I have no reason to believe my Dr. would fabricate this story.
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    I suspect she does not have a good background in "guns." In her shoes I would probably do the same thing.

    It doesn't take many bad apples to ruin it for everyone. Sometimes one is enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HITCH KING View Post
    Maybe next time ask the good Dr. would she be willing to remove the sign? Give CCW'ers a second chance. Maybe offer her a free trip to the range sometime.
    Would be nice, but she is just part of a large Cardiovascular group that owns the 2 story facility. The "No Gun" sign complete with gun and / in circle are etched into the glass on the both sides of the doors at each entrance.

    I'll think about the offer to take her to the range. This might be easier to do if she was a guy.

    One thing I didn't point out in my original post is that she said this facility does have internal undercover security.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangevol View Post

    She explained the sign went up a couple of years ago after an incident involving a patient who had a TN handgun carry permit, was armed, and brandished his weapon after getting frustrated with his lengthy wait to see his doctor. She said the police were called and the man was disarmed and escorted out of the building by a few Germantown Police SWAT officers.
    Based upon that logic, after Ft Hood we should disarm all of the military. Oh, geez... they were. I think I would have suggested that anyone could "illegally" carry or carry a gun in anyway, it was faulty logic, as the "sign" was not going to protect anyone from an idiot. Then I would have suggested a CCH class to her and if she was "cute", would have asked if she would like to go the range with me.

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    Ask her this:

    If one of her surgery patients dies on the table ( has a 'poor outcome' is how Doctors like to say it), will she stop doing surgery? Will she only take the cases that are survivable? Or will she work that much harder to save all her patients. Can she predict which of her patients is at risk for heart attack before the first visit?

    As an educated woman, I would hope she could appreciate the corollary.
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    Well man, as a native for 24 years, I'm sad to say I'm not surprised that happened in Memphis. I'm just glad I got out of that city forever

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    The doctor's opinion is conceptually in conflict with sharing the road with "licensed" drivers. If one licensed driver created a problem once, why not prevent licensed drivers from using the parking lot outside the office?

    If one "licensed" doctor caused a "medical misadventure" once, why would she be in a practice with another licensed doctor?

    Obviously these are logical extremes, but they illustrate the fallacy of her thinking.

    A license of any sort works as a filter - it's a screen of sorts, but not an absolute guarantee. It just biases the odds in favor of a particular outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangevol View Post

    One thing I didn't point out in my original post is that she said this facility does have internal undercover security.
    Which kind of internal undercover security: Armed, or useless? i suspect the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian D. View Post
    Which kind of internal undercover security: Armed, or useless? i suspect the latter.
    Probably armed. People that don't want you armed generally love their hired guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TX-JB View Post
    So if someone starts carrying because they were a victim of a crime, their carrying is based on 'prejudice'?

    I don't think so...

    I understand their decision, based upon the incident...I may not agree with it, but it's their property, so I can respect that...
    I see your point but...

    Assuming that every CCW Holder is going to act crazy and brandish a firearm is Prejudice. There are just a few Bad Apples.

    Assuming that every Criminal / Thug on the street is a threat to my safety is NOT Prejudice because thats what they do. They are all Bad Apples.

    So if I'm robbed and decide to carry a gun its not that I'm now prejudiced against criminals its that my eyes were opened.

    Now if I decide to carry a gun because my neighborhood is, or I'm going to an area that is primarily Black or Hispanic. Then THAT is Prejudice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian D. View Post
    Which kind of internal undercover security: Armed, or useless? i suspect the latter.
    That's Funny
    Exodus 22:2 "If a thief is caught breaking in and is struck so that he dies, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed"

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    Quote Originally Posted by paramedic70002 View Post
    Ask her this:

    If one of her surgery patients dies on the table ( has a 'poor outcome' is how Doctors like to say it), will she stop doing surgery? Will she only take the cases that are survivable? Or will she work that much harder to save all her patients. Can she predict which of her patients is at risk for heart attack before the first visit?

    As an educated woman, I would hope she could appreciate the corollary.

    +1

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    Like plane crashes, every such and similar CCW incident will be sensational, and will be featured on newspaper pages and local TV news shows...for maybe two minutes or so...no in-depth interviews or news.

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