December 4th, 2009 03:49 PM
Does my employer have the right to fire me for carrying at work?
I saw the other thread on this that was closed and thought I’d open up another topic. I carry at work, the management is not aware that I carry at work and would probably fire me on the spot if they found out. I accept this as a possible consequence of my violating company policy and I understand that I may lose my job over this.
I believe that my employer has the right to set conditions of employment and I agreed to be bound by those conditions when I accepted the position.
The reason I opened this thread is to encourage debate among those W/ opposing viewpoints.
December 4th, 2009 03:50 PM
In short, YES. They have the right to fire you, especially if you are violating company policy.
December 4th, 2009 03:58 PM
Can you be fired for carrying at work in violation of your employer's policies?
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Yes.
Mid-length answer: Yes.
There's a pattern there....
Frankly, this topic is ready to join the list of wastes of bandwidth that have been done over and over again, just like:
9mm v .45?
How to do you use the restroom with your gun on your belt?
Chambered or not?
On a more serious note - if this thread even hints at going down the road that the last one went (which seems inevitable), it's going to suffer the same fate. So please, no ad hom nonsense - discuss the topic and not one another.
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December 4th, 2009 03:59 PM
Yep...IMO this is really a no brainer and not much for disucssion. They say no...well no means no.
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You go against thier wishs and regulations..and they find out?..well?
If you say to somebody not to do something in your house as such....you expect them to respect that request, no?. If they don't and blantently disrespect your wish's...... would you not ask them to leave?
December 4th, 2009 04:00 PM
Originally Posted by Frogbones
+1 well said
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December 4th, 2009 04:10 PM
Why I started this thread
Apparently one of the admins felt that this topic was important and really didn't want to close the other thread on it and only did so because the OP requested it.
This is an important topic but, unfortunately, is closed by request from the OP.
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I opened this thread to give an opportunity to continue the disscussion.
December 4th, 2009 04:47 PM
As I've read thru these "carry at work threads" I can't see how some would risk loosing their job in a time where the unemployment rate is 10% or higher?
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December 4th, 2009 04:54 PM
At the risk of losing your job, in an economy that is NOT conducive to an over abundance of new employment opportunities, I'm not sure I would risk carrying at work, when the employers policy is obviously "NO you can't carry". There is a time and a place to challenge authority, and IMHO this may not be that time nor place. JMO.
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December 4th, 2009 04:55 PM
I can't carry at work because it's illegal (state law). If it were just a company policy, I might have to think about the ease of finding another job. What do you think? Do you feel lucky?
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December 4th, 2009 04:56 PM
In violation of company policy? They certainly do.
Does my employer have the right to fire me for carrying at work?
December 4th, 2009 05:04 PM
Of course they can dismiss you. That is their right as your employer. If they believe you are a liability to the company they can terminate your employment!
December 4th, 2009 05:05 PM
It all depends on the state law and how that blends with company policy.
Some states require written warning notices, and a record of violations before they can fire you. Depends on whether you have a labor contract or are employed at will.
If it is only company policy and you're discrete, why would they know? The only way they would know is if you stopped a deranged killer at a board meeting before the CEO and BD were all killed. How could they possibly fire you then?
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December 4th, 2009 05:07 PM
IMHO if you want to challenge a company policy hire a lawyer, but don't tempt fate. If you break the rules don't complain if you get fired, it's no skin off my nose either way. Martyrs may be inspirational but are rarely useful.
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December 4th, 2009 05:20 PM
Your quesiton has been answered, yep, they have the right to fire you if you break company policy.
I will go further to say that in states that are right to work states, which really means right to fire, the employer can fire you for any darn reason they see fit.
So this is really not worth rehashing, and after 100+ posts in the other thread it pretty much has been covered. If your job is critical to your families survival, go ahead and risk it, but don't whine when you get
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December 4th, 2009 05:51 PM
This isn't even debateable...the short answer is yes, an employer can terminate. We don't have to like it, support it, or whatever...doesn't change the fact that the right to terminate is there.
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