Wondered if this would work
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December 9th, 2009 06:13 PM
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Wondered if this would work
Well the Aikido dojo in AL didn't answer my email when I wrote to find out more info so I think they are closed or something. So now I'm thinking about moving to New York city and was wondering, if I got my license to be a bodyguard and CCW would I be able to use my weapon in my own defense or only my client's? Also, would I be allowed to carry when not "on the clock?"
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December 9th, 2009 06:13 PM
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December 9th, 2009 07:13 PM
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First of all why in heavens name would you want to move to NYC??!!
As to your questions, my guess would be you could use your weapon to protect yourself and client. If your taken out your client would be at the mercy of the BG.
As for being able to carry off duty, it would depend on the permit you were issued, if it is a "work permit" then I would say no, you could not carry if you were not actively guarding a client.
IANAL so those are only guesses on my part.
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December 9th, 2009 07:15 PM
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The first line of archers reply says it all...
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December 9th, 2009 08:04 PM
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I'm not sure permits can be had in NYC. Super Anti gun city.
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December 9th, 2009 09:37 PM
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December 9th, 2009 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by
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First of all why in heavens name would you want to move to NYC??!!
Second of all...
Third of all...
etc.....
"Texas can make it without the United States, but the United States can't make it without Texas!".... Sam Houston
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December 9th, 2009 10:02 PM
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Leaving Sugarland , Texas for NYC (get a roap lol)?? I dont know.
Yes you can get a ccw in NYC to work as an executive escort. You should be prepared to show contracts and proof that the principle needs protecting and more than likely the permit would only be for "on the clock" but that is a broad timeframe. Good luck with that stuff
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December 9th, 2009 10:11 PM
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You are going to fight an uphill battle. It is possible but not probable. You are going to get a job at a security firm that does armed guard work. You will be able to carry while working. Do not be surprised that you will have to turn in your gun at the end of your shift and pick it back up at the start of the next day. My father and uncles all had a full carry in the NYC boros.
Only other way is to carry large sums cash or jewerly or prescrition drugs. or other high dollar items. IMHO Stay in Texas.
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December 9th, 2009 11:15 PM
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Well, actually I'm not in Texas. I live in FL. I love TX and would like to move there, but AFAIK there aren't any dojo's teaching yoshinkan Aikido. NYC is one of the few places where I found a dojo. It doesn't seem to be very popular in the US. I'm only planning on going there to study Aikido.
If not NYC, I'll probably end up going to Tokyo, and they ain't any better on the gun issue, plus I heard that the police over there aren't bound by the same rules as our police and can take you in without any proof and you don't have the right to an attorney or anything.

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You are going to fight an uphill battle. It is possible but not probable. You are going to get a job at a security firm that does armed guard work. You will be able to carry while working. Do not be surprised that you will have to turn in your gun at the end of your shift and pick it back up at the start of the next day. My father and uncles all had a full carry in the NYC boros.
Only other way is to carry large sums cash or jewerly or prescrition drugs. or other high dollar items. IMHO Stay in Texas.
how did your family get theirs?
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December 9th, 2009 11:30 PM
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My fault on the Texas thing. I was jumping off of TX-JB second of all etc thread and somehow or another a sentence went missing sorry for causing confusion
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December 9th, 2009 11:33 PM
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My fault on the Texas thing. I was jumping off of TX-JB second of all etc thread and somehow or another a sentence went missing sorry for causing confusion
A-OK. I'm honored to be confused for a Texan
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December 9th, 2009 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I'm not sure permits can be had in NYC. Super Anti gun city.
Permits are available for MAFIA hitmen, and Donald Trump.
The NT gun law, known as the Sullivan Law was written by a Tim Sullivan who was a gangster and leader of the Five Points Irish gang.
The law was written so that he had discretion in who got a permit. His gang members did get permits. Rival gang members did not get permits which made the police force a de facto member of his gang.
Nothing much has changed in 100 years.
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December 10th, 2009 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by
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Well the Aikido dojo in AL didn't answer my email when I wrote to find out more info so I think they are closed or something. So now I'm thinking about moving to New York city and was wondering, if I got my license to be a bodyguard and CCW would I be able to use my weapon in my own defense or only my client's? Also, would I be allowed to carry when not "on the clock?"
ok first off. What did you want to know about aikido? Did you want to start some hand to hand training? If so i would look up a bujinkan dojo near you. I know in alabama there is one in birmingham, tuscaloosa, and huntsville. There may be others but i dont know them off hand.
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December 10th, 2009 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by
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Well, actually I'm not in Texas. I live in FL. I love TX and would like to move there, but AFAIK there aren't any dojo's teaching yoshinkan Aikido. NYC is one of the few places where I found a dojo. It doesn't seem to be very popular in the US. I'm only planning on going there to study Aikido.
If not NYC, I'll probably end up going to Tokyo, and they ain't any better on the gun issue, plus I heard that the police over there aren't bound by the same rules as our police and can take you in without any proof and you don't have the right to an attorney or anything.
how did your family get theirs?
What's so special about yoshinkan Aikido? I'm not familiar with that style, but I do know that some form of Aikido is being taught here in the U.S.--why not give it a try?
Yeah, unless you speak Japanese and are totally familiar with their customs and laws, I'd stay away from there if I were you. I've heard some horror stories about their police and prisons, and you don't want to get in trouble over there!
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December 10th, 2009 02:35 AM
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According to the Aikido Yoshinkan Foundation (formerly the International Yoshinkan Aikido Foundation founded by Gozo Shioda), there are 32 registered dojos around the US. Some of these are in gun-friendly states. All of these were founded following Gozo and/or Yasuhisa Shioda. If all you are looking for is Yoshinkan Aikido, there are many other dojos to check out, that don't require you moving to one of the most gun-unfriendly cities in the country.
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