Wondered if this would work

Wondered if this would work

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    Wondered if this would work

    Well the Aikido dojo in AL didn't answer my email when I wrote to find out more info so I think they are closed or something. So now I'm thinking about moving to New York city and was wondering, if I got my license to be a bodyguard and CCW would I be able to use my weapon in my own defense or only my client's? Also, would I be allowed to carry when not "on the clock?"
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    First of all why in heavens name would you want to move to NYC??!!

    As to your questions, my guess would be you could use your weapon to protect yourself and client. If your taken out your client would be at the mercy of the BG.
    As for being able to carry off duty, it would depend on the permit you were issued, if it is a "work permit" then I would say no, you could not carry if you were not actively guarding a client.

    IANAL so those are only guesses on my part.

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    I'm not sure permits can be had in NYC. Super Anti gun city.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    First of all why in heavens name would you want to move to NYC??!!
    Second of all...
    Third of all...
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    Leaving Sugarland , Texas for NYC (get a roap lol)?? I dont know.

    Yes you can get a ccw in NYC to work as an executive escort. You should be prepared to show contracts and proof that the principle needs protecting and more than likely the permit would only be for "on the clock" but that is a broad timeframe. Good luck with that stuff

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    You are going to fight an uphill battle. It is possible but not probable. You are going to get a job at a security firm that does armed guard work. You will be able to carry while working. Do not be surprised that you will have to turn in your gun at the end of your shift and pick it back up at the start of the next day. My father and uncles all had a full carry in the NYC boros.
    Only other way is to carry large sums cash or jewerly or prescrition drugs. or other high dollar items. IMHO Stay in Texas.

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    Well, actually I'm not in Texas. I live in FL. I love TX and would like to move there, but AFAIK there aren't any dojo's teaching yoshinkan Aikido. NYC is one of the few places where I found a dojo. It doesn't seem to be very popular in the US. I'm only planning on going there to study Aikido.

    If not NYC, I'll probably end up going to Tokyo, and they ain't any better on the gun issue, plus I heard that the police over there aren't bound by the same rules as our police and can take you in without any proof and you don't have the right to an attorney or anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by HITCH KING View Post
    You are going to fight an uphill battle. It is possible but not probable. You are going to get a job at a security firm that does armed guard work. You will be able to carry while working. Do not be surprised that you will have to turn in your gun at the end of your shift and pick it back up at the start of the next day. My father and uncles all had a full carry in the NYC boros.
    Only other way is to carry large sums cash or jewerly or prescrition drugs. or other high dollar items. IMHO Stay in Texas.
    how did your family get theirs?
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    My fault on the Texas thing. I was jumping off of TX-JB second of all etc thread and somehow or another a sentence went missing sorry for causing confusion

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    Quote Originally Posted by hengst View Post
    My fault on the Texas thing. I was jumping off of TX-JB second of all etc thread and somehow or another a sentence went missing sorry for causing confusion
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    Quote Originally Posted by coriantan View Post
    I'm not sure permits can be had in NYC. Super Anti gun city.
    Permits are available for MAFIA hitmen, and Donald Trump.

    The NT gun law, known as the Sullivan Law was written by a Tim Sullivan who was a gangster and leader of the Five Points Irish gang.
    The law was written so that he had discretion in who got a permit. His gang members did get permits. Rival gang members did not get permits which made the police force a de facto member of his gang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRTCP88 View Post
    Well the Aikido dojo in AL didn't answer my email when I wrote to find out more info so I think they are closed or something. So now I'm thinking about moving to New York city and was wondering, if I got my license to be a bodyguard and CCW would I be able to use my weapon in my own defense or only my client's? Also, would I be allowed to carry when not "on the clock?"
    ok first off. What did you want to know about aikido? Did you want to start some hand to hand training? If so i would look up a bujinkan dojo near you. I know in alabama there is one in birmingham, tuscaloosa, and huntsville. There may be others but i dont know them off hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRTCP88 View Post
    Well, actually I'm not in Texas. I live in FL. I love TX and would like to move there, but AFAIK there aren't any dojo's teaching yoshinkan Aikido. NYC is one of the few places where I found a dojo. It doesn't seem to be very popular in the US. I'm only planning on going there to study Aikido.

    If not NYC, I'll probably end up going to Tokyo, and they ain't any better on the gun issue, plus I heard that the police over there aren't bound by the same rules as our police and can take you in without any proof and you don't have the right to an attorney or anything.



    how did your family get theirs?
    What's so special about yoshinkan Aikido? I'm not familiar with that style, but I do know that some form of Aikido is being taught here in the U.S.--why not give it a try?

    Yeah, unless you speak Japanese and are totally familiar with their customs and laws, I'd stay away from there if I were you. I've heard some horror stories about their police and prisons, and you don't want to get in trouble over there!
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    According to the Aikido Yoshinkan Foundation (formerly the International Yoshinkan Aikido Foundation founded by Gozo Shioda), there are 32 registered dojos around the US. Some of these are in gun-friendly states. All of these were founded following Gozo and/or Yasuhisa Shioda. If all you are looking for is Yoshinkan Aikido, there are many other dojos to check out, that don't require you moving to one of the most gun-unfriendly cities in the country.
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