I think you mean Front Site. Probably talking about the Utah CCW class.
This is a discussion on 30 State CCW Permit within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I was looking at the ForeSight Website and saw a blurb about being able to get a 30 state permit after finishing one of their ...
I was looking at the ForeSight Website and saw a blurb about being able to get a 30 state permit after finishing one of their classes. Anyone know what this is about.
I am familiar with ForeSights issues, so I am tempted to take this with a grain of salt.
With respect to ForeSight, has anyone taken them up on the XD offer and been happy?
Yes, the obvious answer as mentioned. Still, I was curious so I got roped into the website and took the quiz. After 40+ years of shooting I was surprised how poorly I did with my answers.
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Got this email from FS
Dear hitch king,
The Comfort of Skill at Arms is a gift that you and every member of your family should have and I want to give it to you this Christmas season.
If you have been good this year and can follow some very simple directions as outlined below, I want to give you a $1,000 Front Sight certificate to attend your choice of a Two Day Defensive Handgun OR Two Day Tactical Shotgun OR Two Day Practical Rifle Course for only $100.
That's right! ONLY $100 and you can use the certificate at ANY time in the future.
This is the same Two Day Defensive Handgun or Two Day Tactical Shotgun or Two Day Practical Rifle Course that normally costs $1,000, but I will make it available to you through this very limited, Special Holiday Course Certificate Offer for only $100.
This is true. Only $100 but you must follow the very simple directions to the letter.
Here is how it works:
The Certificate is good for you to attend Front Sight's Two Day Defensive Handgun or Two Day Tactical Shotgun or Two Day Practical Rifle Course at any time in the future and has No Expiration Date.
The Certificate is good for a student's first course Or for returning students as well. Certificate is transferable, but not redeemable for cash.
Simply mail a personal check or money order in the amount of $100 made payable to Front Sight ALONG WITH A SELF-ADDRESSED STAMPED ENVELOPE.Mail your check to:
P.O. Box 2619
Aptos, CA 95001
(NOTE: If you are purchasing 5 or more certificates you can pay by credit card by calling us at 1.800.987.7719 before midnight, Monday, December 14, 2009.)
The deadline for postmark of your envelope is MONDAY, December 14, 2009. This means you must drop the check in the mail to us before 5:00pm Monday, December 14, 2009.
Upon receipt, we will immediately mail you back, (well in time for Christmas presents) in the Self Addressed Stamped Envelope you provide, a special Front Sight Course Certificate good to attend a Two Day Defensive Handgun or Two Day Tactical Shotgun or Two Day Practical Rifle Course at any time in the future with no expiration date. If you decide at any time in the future you cannot use it, the Certificate is fully transferable.
I have a Utah permit. Didn't take the class from Front Sight but the permit is worth the cost of the class and application. Get it while you can. Who knows if they'll stop issuing to non-residents.
Also, FYI you don't really get all 30 states. There are 30 states that recognize a Utah permit if you are a resident of Utah. There are a few that won't recognize if if you aren't a resident. I think that leaves you with something like 27 states since you live in CO.
I took the course last summer. Unless it has changed, you are prepared for the Nevada, Utah, and Florida permits. I opted to only pursue the Utah permit and shortly afterward Nevada stopped recognizing the Utah permit. So cross reference all three and you will come up with the total number of states. But it is true that some states only recognize the permit if it is a resident permit.
It is a great course. I don't like some of the good doctor's marketing ploys but the courses are really good.
I bought into the 'free' gun deal. The course is definitely top notch, however, the gear prices are way inflated on Front Sight's website.
Avg. street value:
Springfield XD: $600
Holster and Mag holder: n/a part of the gun price
SureFire flashlight: $40
Spyderco knockoff knife: $20
7 practice manuals @ $40 each: $280
CCW permit class: $150 (if we're talking Utah)
Uncle Mikes belt: $25
Armorer's mat: $40
Shirt and hat: $50
So, all the gear is worth about $1205, so you're getting a free course. If you look around the 4 day course certificates can be had from $300 to $600. If the gear appeals to you, go for it. I'm glad that I did it.
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To the OP...
The Florida permit will give you about 30 states.
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I took the Utah course in New Jersey last year. It's a great non-resident permit to have!
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If you get the Utah license it just means that it is good in 30 other states.
Which means that Utah has reciprocal benefits, much the same that many states do.
The Arkansas Permit is good for 32 states.
Their Instructors only need to be certified as Utah instructors for the permit to be honored in the other 30 states.
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I have a Kansas CCH. If I could afford to travel, there are only one or two places I'd like to go that are not already covered by my Kansas license. But if I get a Utah license I get this coverage, not bad
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