ITT Tech is crazy. The doors in our new building dont lock from the inside!

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    ITT Tech is crazy. The doors in our new building dont lock from the inside!

    I just realized that the doors in the new wing of the building do NOT lock from the inside. Since I cannot carry at school without the risk of being expelled i would at least hope i could put something between me and an active shooter. I mean a locked door isn't much but it would be better than nothing. I mean even if it wasn't an active shooter and just a crazy guy tryin to get to someone a locking door could prevent a situation from getting worse. Granted the doors in the old building lock but there are about 10 or so rooms over there that dont lock from the inside. I asked the director about this situation and he said it was so no one could lock themselves inside. I asked him "Isn't that a bit of a catch 22?" He said it was. I'm really debating on buying a small cz 9mm and carrying that while at school.

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    Do they lock from the outside? They may be egress doors, required by current building codes, which means the door must be able open from the inside at all times.

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    Just be careful if you decide to carry. Is illegal to carry on your campus due to state or local laws? Or is it something the school itself put out? Also remember concealed is concealed and no one should be the wiser.

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    While it may be legal in Alabama, you might need to check with the local sherrif and see if he has any rules governing this. I think Alabama allows the sherrif to impose additional restrictions.
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    Not to slam your choice of education, but a lot of ITT's aren't accredited so I wonder if that's a loophole in campus carry. Without accreditation, isn't it just technically another private business?
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    IMPROVISE!

    I used to use a screwdriver from my tool bag to use as a wedge to either keep a door open or closed.

    Some of the stuff I work on is located near doors & I have been hit by the doors when people open them.

    Since I ended up needing the screw driver, I ended up getting two regular door stops from Wally World. Problem solved.

    There is bound to be something you can use to improvise one.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biomortis View Post
    Not to slam your choice of education, but a lot of ITT's aren't accredited so I wonder if that's a loophole in campus carry. Without accreditation, isn't it just technically another private business?
    Being a 'public school' doesn't necessarily mean that it is accredited.

    Also, most commercial buildings will not lock from the inside...in the sense that you're thinking. If they did, any 'Joe Smuckatella' could lock the door at his/her pleasure...not good. Most doors have locking bars that require special key to lock, thus preventing unwanted locking from the inside...I'm just sayin'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by goawayfarm View Post
    IMPROVISE!

    I used to use a screwdriver from my tool bag to use as a wedge to either keep a door open or closed.

    Some of the stuff I work on is located near doors & I have been hit by the doors when people open them.

    Since I ended up needing the screw driver, I ended up getting two regular door stops from Wally World. Problem solved.

    There is bound to be something you can use to improvise one.....

    If the doors open into the hallway a wedge would not help.

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    I carried for two years at Everest college. No one was the wiser you simply do not ever tell anyone that you are doing so

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    college carry map\/ college carry is gtg in alabama... in fact you could actually be 18 and carry to class your senior year of HS if you got an unrestricted permit

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmodel65 View Post
    college carry map\/ college carry is gtg in alabama... in fact you could actually be 18 and carry to class your senior year of HS if you got an unrestricted permit

    HS? Not so much. Alabama restricts K-12. Besides I grew up in Alabama. When I went to school there, many decades ago, 18 years of age was more representive of 7th grade. We got out of school 1/2 days on election day to vote in the 7th grade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fox2102 View Post
    I just realized that the doors in the new wing of the building do NOT lock from the inside. Since I cannot carry at school without the risk of being expelled i would at least hope i could put something between me and an active shooter. I mean a locked door isn't much but it would be better than nothing. I mean even if it wasn't an active shooter and just a crazy guy tryin to get to someone a locking door could prevent a situation from getting worse. Granted the doors in the old building lock but there are about 10 or so rooms over there that dont lock from the inside. I asked the director about this situation and he said it was so no one could lock themselves inside. I asked him "Isn't that a bit of a catch 22?" He said it was. I'm really debating on buying a small cz 9mm and carrying that while at school.
    Tell him that unless the doors become lockable from the inside that the school can't go into 'emergency lock-down' mode. Also point out that the school would be liable in that scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevew View Post
    HS? Not so much. Alabama restricts K-12. Besides I grew up in Alabama. When I went to school there, many decades ago, 18 years of age was more representive of 7th grade. We got out of school 1/2 days on election day to vote in the 7th grade.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Biomortis View Post
    Not to slam your choice of education, but a lot of ITT's aren't accredited so I wonder if that's a loophole in campus carry. Without accreditation, isn't it just technically another private business?
    ITT is nationally accredited but it is a horrible school. So much dirt running through here. I'm trying to get out but since i also work there i cant leave until i find another job. Not finding much though. I wouldn't recommend ITT to anyone. There are better schools cheaper

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    Quote Originally Posted by fox2102 View Post
    ITT is nationally accredited but it is a horrible school. So much dirt running through here. I'm trying to get out but since i also work there i cant leave until i find another job. Not finding much though. I wouldn't recommend ITT to anyone. There are better schools cheaper
    I think it depends on your major and where your school is...... I graduated in ITCNS from the Syracuse campus and I thought the school itself was pretty decent. But I've heard bad things about other campuses around the country....

    It seems the electrical and computer schools are good but the programming guys were not real happy. I think the schools lost a lot when they started doing what the local businesses told them to do in order to prepare graduates for work. They started concentrating too much on the corporate side of things and left out a lot of technical, especially in the CNS curriculum.

    Really the best thing about them is the flexible schedules. Its not easy for full time workers to get a degree in two years but ITT does make it possible......

    FWIW the doors at my campus were always locked/unlocked from the inside. And usually they were locked all day except the main entrance.
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