This is a discussion on Best and worst of state laws within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by rhinokrk If someone in TX is stealing your truck, one could shoot the thief if he felt so inclined. I'm quite sure ...
I would just like to be able to CCW, however until our Crook of a Governor leaves office and we elect a Governor who is more for the people instead of his pocket we shall see what comes about.
We finally might have a chance.
I carry a gun cause a cop is too heavy.
Sounds like we need to adopt Utah's gun laws and add the TX protect property statute and I would be a happy camper.
In OK, you can't carry in a bar, professional sporting event, school, any govt. property except for parks and fairgrounds, and it is kinda gray on the gun buster stickers on private property.
The Second Amendment ...... Because crime SHOULD be a hazardous occupation.
If you want to piss off a conservative, lie to him.
If you want to piss off a liberal, tell him the truth.
In a way I don't want a national permit BUT I'd be thrilled if we could get a federal law allowing us to keep arm on any interstate or US highway in the country from CA to NY.
Some instructors are better than others. The inst. who taught my class did the bare minimum, not even shooting.
Some instructors are great and personally require much more than the State. I'd advise anyone interested in a Ut permit to find an inst. who actually requires more, including shooting.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
I don't think it's the states place to see people are trained. It's peoples place to seek training.
I don't think permits should be required either, but that's another thread.
Get the U.N. out of the U.S.
Get the U.S. out of the U.N.
On another post here someone mentioned that in their state they are required to inform a homeowner before entering the house.
I'm not sure what state this is, but it seems like it makes it difficult to stay concealed.
I do admit when I started carrying I wondered if I should inform friends when I visited, but since it's not required here I just keep it concealed and secret.
He does not have any license or permit, he always tells the officers that he has it and where it is. He says they'll find it anyway if you don't tell them. From his stories I took it that interstate travel allowed you to defend yourself but maybe he can't go to any states with laws like NY's.
This is technically correct I think. CCW means nothing besides permission to carry a weapon that otherwise would be illegal. So, requirements are limited to what safety is needed to prevent accidents in carrying or operation, one of which is of course how to aim the gun - and then the rest, loading safely, unloading, etc.I don't think it's the states place to see people are trained. It's peoples place to seek training.
Shooting anyone is covered by a whole other library of law: Self-Defense Law which does not concern the means of self-defense: gun, knife, body, a handy tree branch etc. but the conditions under which it is legal to use Self-Defense. CCW does not give you any additional Self-Defense rights than not having a CCW.
In other words, shooting beyond safety concerns, is your business, not the states. Sounds practically kind of weird, but I guess that's the technical reason extensive training - or even moderate training - in the field and testing for that is not a part of most states CCW requirements.
By the way, I'm not stating that this is good or bad, just the reason that it might be this way (minimal testing).