Best and worst of state laws
This is a discussion on Best and worst of state laws within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by CommonMan101
Hmm. My brother-in-law is a truck driver and he carries a gun in his cab on all interstates across America - ...
December 23rd, 2009 02:22 PM
I find that very hard to believe, is he carrying a handgun or a shotgun? He's carrying a concealed illegal firearm from state to state? I'm not saying your a liar but maybe he's pulling your leg?
Originally Posted by CommonMan101
Vermont does not issue Permit/Licenses to Carry a Concealed firearm. Vermont allows anyone
who can legally own a firearm to carry it concealed without a permit of any kind.
December 23rd, 2009 02:33 PM
In Colorado I love the fact that you can carry a handgun in your vehicle loaded w/ out a permit.
I would change the post office law and also go with the Texans on protecting property if I could.
I would really love for every state to just be like Vermont.
December 23rd, 2009 03:31 PM
You're right, it is hard to believe because it's not accurate. There is nothing in any law that grants carrying on an interstate nationwide. There's no federal law prohibiting a truck driver from carrying a firearm in the cab of his truck but he has to comply with the laws in the state in which he is traveling. No interstate highway exemption tho.
Originally Posted by Adkjoe
December 30th, 2009 10:02 AM
I can ask him any specific question you may have about it. He is not pulling my leg. My guess is that it depends on the state. His life and property are under constant threat - as any truck carrying goods are. According to him you may be shot by the average truck driver if you try to steal his load/truck. How helpless should they be when they have their life and livelihood on the line every day?
Originally Posted by Adkjoe
I find it both amusing and confounding that "illegal firearm" is used by someone here. That's a Bloomberg tactic to sway opinion. There is nothing illegal about the firearm itself.
In Texas any driver coming through the state has more ability to carry a pistol in the glove box than the average resident. Strange but true that a traveller from another state with a pistol on or near him is more good to go than joe-shmo getting some diapers at 3am and having one in his pocket.
So they can cruise my neighborhood armed and unlicensed when they are from somewhere else but if you live here you better have a permit.
December 30th, 2009 10:21 AM
Strange. You first deny then affirm what I wrote. Never said there was a law granting anyone anything. Never said there was an interstate highway exemption but being a traveller is defined... how? (serious question still asked of courts here in TX) Basically you re-wrote what I wrote and added to it. More confirming of what I wrote than denouncing.
Originally Posted by ispcapt
Truth is - he defends himself and the officers that stop him don't take away the gun he tells them he has. Wherever that fits in all the laws that apply - there it is.
Maybe because it's a mouse gun they have to let him go before they bust out laughing?
December 30th, 2009 04:12 PM
December 30th, 2009 05:09 PM
I want the Texas CHL to become a true CCW license and include knives. If you are licensed to carry a gun then what difference should it make if you have a 6 inch Bowie or a katana? I also think it is time for open carry in Texas. There is 0 reason we shouldnt be able to do that here
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December 30th, 2009 07:37 PM
In MA I hate the fact if you accidently show your firearm (wind for example) you can be deemed "unsuitable" to carry and have your license taken away.
there is no law stating the OC is illegal, but again, you will most likely be deemed "unsuitable"
on yeah, forgot about pre ban magazines...if you are to own a high capacity magazine, it must be pre-ban...made before september something or other of 1994...
December 30th, 2009 07:52 PM
Pro's- Unlimited gun purchases with no NICS check at time of sale. Also, we dont need to qualify with a gun to carry it, our permit allows all handguns with no limit as to how many you can carry.
Con's- No carry in Bars, Taverns, Pubs, or Resturants that serve and consume alcohol. (I agree with previous posters that it should just be no carrying while consuming alcohol) Also, we cannot carry inside of public malls which is an area i think would be high priority for this. NC CCW should be lifetime instead of 5 years. Keep it going until a criminal conviction revokes it from me. There are several others but these are the main ones.
Originally Posted by rottkeeper
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December 30th, 2009 08:41 PM
Originally Posted by Gunnyjeep
Why Do you guys so desperately WANT a national reciprocity license???
I have a Michigan Drivers license, and it allows me to drive in ALL 50 states if I choose to.
Even Canada, home of the sheeple lets me drive there with my Mi. license when I go there for work.
Why would I want the feds having ANYTHING to do with this is beyond me!!, I'm just sayin
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December 30th, 2009 09:39 PM
Absent any posts from AZ, I'll add one.
Originally Posted by sixsccw
I most dislike that bars and restaurants can post against carrying weapons. Although the law was got better recently, it still has room for improvement. My home state of CT simply has one set of rules for (concealed) carry, and I would apply that here.
What I like best is that 18 year olds can own handguns and carry them openly (21 is the min age for a CCW), and that with the possible exception of Tuscon, open carry is neither prohibited nor seen as a really big deal.
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December 30th, 2009 10:09 PM
I live in Texas, for the most part I like the laws. There are a few things that I would like to see.
Carry in bars when not consuming adult beverages.
Be able to carry anywhere, removing State Buildings, Amusement Parks and if you must disarm allow lock boxes.
December 31st, 2009 03:01 AM
Pro: Carry in bars, Universities (school policy may prevent)
Signs have no weight of law
Car carry without permit
No requirement to retreat
No ammo, mag restrictions
Very few places off limits by law
Denver must respect CCW
Need a permit at all (VT style is best)
Background checks for firearm purchase
No post office carry
Need to make employers respect firearms in vehicles
Need to make employers respect CCW (2nd Amed is a "special right that can not be infringed")
Force Co Sheriff to allow NFAs
Cover knives, other weapons
December 31st, 2009 10:44 AM
No license required for car carry.
No penalties for carrying into a state restricted zone (notice I said STATE)
Good in 30-odd other states.
Any states permit is good in Missouri
What I would like to see changed:
Castle Doctrine changed to wherever you have a legal right to be.
Issue non-resident permits.
Parking lot laws changed. If I can describe this correctly, right now I can not carry at work, AND cannot leave it in the car while I am there if the company says no.
Cape Locum Et Fac Vestigium
January 1st, 2010 05:06 PM
He can carry a firearm in his truck if he complies with FOPA or the state laws in the states inwhich he is traveling. For FOPA that means he has to be in legal possession from his starting point and in legal possession at his ending point and the firearm has to be unloaded, in a case, and inaccessible as possible to the occupants of the vehicle. State laws vary.
Originally Posted by CommonMan101
There is nothing in the motor carrier safety regs which address an OTR driver concerning firearms.
There is no federal law granting interstate concealed carry for OTR drivers. I've heard drivers claim such.
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