December 30th, 2009 07:12 PM
I only have 3 C's, Comfort, Concealment, Can I get to it?
Everyone balances these differant, including the other C's listed by others. So isnt alot of this just preference?
I know not what this "overkill" means.
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December 30th, 2009 07:18 PM
The only " C " I consider is CONFIDENCE
I'm confident that my firearm is always with me.
I'm confident that I have the ability to deliver accurate fire to target rather it be 5 feet or 50 yards.
I'm confident that my firearm will function as required
I'm confident that the caliber is capable of performing it's required task.
I'm confident that my ammunition provides the highest performance available.
My Confidence comes from decades of training and carry.
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December 30th, 2009 08:00 PM
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December 30th, 2009 08:02 PM
Originally Posted by retsupt99
I can always count on Retsup99 to give me the common sense answer LOL.
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December 30th, 2009 08:49 PM
The highlighted section above indicates to me that you need to focus on SD shooting. Just about every course will teach you that your front sight is all you'll use so the sight radius is immaterial. You can also do fine with a two rather than 3 finger grip. It isn't target or bullseye shooting anymore. You need to set your equipment up for your own CC situation(s).
Originally Posted by fcoliver
I have 3 pistols set up for CC which allows me to select the "best" setup for each of MY CC situations and also provide for me to always carry.
My preferred option is to carry a G26 (12+1) in a fanny pack or super tuck with 2 spare mags and a P380 (6+1) in my pocket or IWB as a bug. I'm older and live in a tourist area so I can get away with the fanny pack since a lot of people have them. I've just acquired a PM9 to use either as a primary or as a BUG.
My next choice will be the PM9, pocket or IWB with the P380 as a BUG and the final choices are either the PM9 or P380 in a pocket where deep concealment is needed.
The G26 has Trijicon night sights an a CT LG, The PM9 is getting a Big Dot front sight with the rear blacked out and has a CT LG and the P380 is getting the Big Dot with the blackened rear and CT LG.
My weekly range time is devoted to center of mass, multiple rapid shots on target and mag changes, not eliminating the center of a target.
My lifestyle and activities are varied and don't lend themselves to one CC solution - YMMV.
I feel comfortable with my any of my weapons. My key considerations are a reliable weapon and backup where possible, with the most firepower possible. I carry th most I can within the limits of my social agenda and the law.
If I ever decide to start bullseye shooting, I'll get an appropriate weapon.
December 30th, 2009 09:36 PM
The "best" gun is the one YOU like, not anyone else. It will be a compromise of:
1. Fit - It should fit in your hand like you were born with it there.
2. Reliability - It should go BANG about 99.8% of the time you pull the trigger.
3. Accuracy - In YOUR hand. It's how well YOU shoot it.
4. Concealability - It should be comfortable enough to wear and easy enough to conceal so you won't leave it laying on the dresser at home.
5. Cost - You don't want to scrimp on your "life protector" weapon, but you probably don't need a $1,000 Kimber, either.
December 31st, 2009 10:17 AM
Maybe another "C" ???
I might add "Convenience" and place it just after "Comfort".
Thinking about when I go into a bank, a guvment office, or other non-permitted area for carry. If I can easily and conveniently slip out an IWB-holstered pistol, leave it in the car, and put it back quickly and easily upon returning to the car, I'm much more likely to have it with me at the next stop (most likely WalMart. )
(Or do people leave the gun in the car and the empty holster in place IWB?)
GTOGuy, confidence does include proficiency. I just chose to use "confidence" for the reliability of the gun/ammo, and "control" for my ability to use it. They might be combined, however "control" factors in gun size, weight, caliber, grip size, sight radius, etcetera, as well as practice time with a given gun/ammo combination.
Hardcorp79, thank you for your service. Several people listed "cost" higher than I did. No value judgement there; the whole list is about personal priorities. I agree with your choice of calibers but lean toward the 9mm as a compromise, thinking I might give up some comfort and concealment to have a 9mm instead of .380.
gknola, I'm thinking that in NOLA you'd have to add a "C" for corrosion resistance. Most of my shooting (in the mid-to-late 80's) was IPSC matches with a Gold Cup, but I recognize it's common, if not easy, in a stressful situation, to miss a man-sized target at 7 yards... more so with a smaller gun. Bullseye shooting aside, it seems a sight radius of 4" (Back-up) vs. 5.25" (G26) vs. 6.3" (P226) could make a significant difference in accuracy under stress.
I note some will choose caliber over comfort/concealment, another question intrinsic to my original post, and not a surprise. (Again, no criticism or value judgement implied or intended; it's all personal choice.)
Thanks, once more, for your thoughts and opinions.
December 31st, 2009 02:10 PM
confidence in yourself should be on the list. Your mindset is very importand
confidence in your weapon a close 2nd
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