Define concealed carry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsunsr View Post
    I've been on several handgun forums and read lots of discussion on how best to conceal your handgun. I'm confused. A lot of emphasis on not imprinting etc. What do I care?
    If a citizen notices that you are carrying a gun, and calls the police with a "man with a gun" call, the police will approach you as a dangerous threat until the fact that you're legal can be sorted out.

    This might mean "assuming the position", being cuffed, and generally detained.

    Quote Originally Posted by jsunsr View Post
    If I have a concealed carry permit and I have a jacket or sweater or fanny pack covering the weapon, what do I care if it imprints? What do I care if a LEO can tell I'm carrying? I have a license to carry?
    Well, the LEO might stop you to determine if you're legal taking time out of your day, making you late for an appointment, etc.

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    Is this just a matter of being politically correct?
    No, it's a matter of not revealing what is private, not alarming the , and not revealing to a BG that he ought to shoot you first.
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    con·ceal (kn-sl)
    tr.v. con·cealed, con·ceal·ing, con·ceals
    To keep from being seen, found, observed, or discovered; hide


    I conceal my weapon in order to maintain my tactical advantage.

    If I print, it's unintentional and my loss. I'm not too concerned how printing might affect the unintended viewer.

    I've been a cop... if someone calls on me, no biggie.

    The reality is, even if I do a poor job of concealing, most non-gun people won't even notice it being far too consumed with their own appearance!
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    NM is an open carry state, so imprinting is ok.. I am constantly checking though to make sure my firearm is not showing. Just a habit I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roalho View Post
    I'm looking for a particular case about a guy who accidentally exposed some of his sidearm while waiting in the "take out" area of a restaurant. The scaredy person running the till saw it, screamed bloody murder, police were called, he was handled roughly, and I believe he's still trying to get his permit back. All he did was bend over to pick something up. [/U]
    James Goldberg was arrested when an employee spotted his gun when he was picking up food at a Ruby Tuesdays. The charges were dropped, but he still did not get his permit back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGguy229 View Post
    Generally, I don't worry about printing in VA (but I still dress around the gun)...but if I were to go to SC, TX, FL (where OC is prohibited/not usual), I would keep it concealed.

    In FL, the definition of a "concealed" firearm is simply out of normal view so printing isn't illegal. Statutes also disallow open carrying of firearms unless hunting, fishing and/or camping or on the way to or from such activities. lol

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    Define concealed carry?

    Sometimes when we are out and about and my wife feels a bit nervious, she will 'accidentally' bump into me to see if I'm carrying.

    On unusually hot day last fall at work, I removed my cover shirt while we were loading a truck (carry at work is normal for us). The boss asked "Hey, when did you get a shoulder holster?" " About 3 months ago". I repied.

    When the people who expect that you are probably carrying can't tell what, where, how, or even if you have a firearm, that's how I define concealed.
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    Hey Y'all: Outside of the pistol grip sticking out of your pocket in an obvious fashion, unless you are somehow looking at most of us with superman xray eyes or staring at someone's pockets and crotch like we stare at womens' breasts, I do not understand this whole "imprint thing". Maybe if you have a big 1911 45 or equivalent, but the usual smaller carry in a pocket has no real imprint IMO. If you have the "big gun", you obviously have to have a big holster of sorts and it obviously has to be hidden under a loose shirt or equivalent--again--where is the imprint there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tokerblue View Post
    James Goldberg was arrested when an employee spotted his gun when he was picking up food at a Ruby Tuesdays. The charges were dropped, but he still did not get his permit back.
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    "In short, an employee saw Goldberg’s pistol while he was waiting to pick up some take out food, called law enforcement, and started to move people away from him. When police arrived, they too saw the holstered weapon and arrested him for breach of peace."

    His violation wasn't weapon related. It translates into: "He panicked the sheep". A lesson for all of us who are cavalier about our concealment.
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    If someone can see it are someone can make it out since you are printing... it isn't concealed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gasmitty View Post
    Understand that a big reason for carrying a weapon concealed is to avoid alarming the unarmed citizenry. This has nothing to do with any tactical advantage, and it predates political correctness.

    As mentioned, "printing" (not "imprinting") sufficiently to reveal the presence of a weapon beneath clothing defeats the purpose of carrying concealed, so that's why it's generally discouraged, and actually illegal in some jurisdictions (e.g., Texas).
    According to Texas Law Shield in is not illegal to prihttp:// http://www.texaslawshield.co....php?f=3&t=295
    nt in Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsunsr View Post
    I've been on several handgun forums and read lots of discussion on how best to conceal your handgun. I'm confused. A lot of emphasis on not imprinting etc. What do I care? If I have a concealed carry permit and I have a jacket or sweater or fanny pack covering the weapon, what do I care if it imprints? What do I care if a LEO can tell I'm carrying? I have a license to carry? Is this just a matter of being politically correct? I was in a restaurant in Arkansas while on a trip and a guy walked by with an exposed handgun. I believe Arkansas is one of the states that allowed exposed carry. No one in the restaurant freaked out because this guy had a gun and no obvious indication he was LE. Please, I'm not making a statement, I'm legitimately interested in understanding.
    IMO, make an honest effort to cover your weapon and you will be fine. I have carried a handgun for 43 years now in multiple major cities and walked past multiple LEO's, street tuffs, stood in long lines, in and out of banks, department stores, restaurants, cabs, buses, whatever; as long as it wasn't "visible" the outline never made a difference. I always try to dress decently, be well groomed, quite as possible around strangers/in public and be polite...until its time not to be polite. Do this and you won't have a problem...or you can conceal it so well you "may" will never complete your draw in a CQB or grappling episode...Use common sense, think about it and a path will become clear that is a balanced, workable, non paranoid method of carry. For a while you will need to refine your system but it will smooth out very quickly if you carry regularly and use common sense.

    FWIW always by the best holsters you can afford and yes the wait time is worth it as well. I have tried many from shoulder rigs to brief case and finally found that, for me, OWB with the thinnest, tightest, highest riding pancakes with FBI cant or steeper on a top of the line belt made for carry to be more concealable than even IWB and I have some great IWB holsters...YMMV...
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    There is no reason why the vast majority of people I come in contact with on a daily basis have any reason to know that I am carrying. I don't want to be judged by my gun and like it or not, that is a reality. Any hassle due to folks being intimidated is time I would have to waste.

    I am sure some of the more liberal people at our non-posted corporate office would be inspired to raise a stink if they knew I (as well as some others) carried at the office. I'm fairly confident that owners of the company would not entertain such complaints but I could see them asking us to keep it out of view just to smooth over the situation.

    Sometimes thinking a couple steps ahead can save a person quite a few headaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigvon777 View Post
    According to Texas Law Shield in is not illegal to prihttp:// http://www.texaslawshield.co....php?f=3&t=295
    nt in Texas.
    This thread is over five years old - perhaps the legal situation in TX has changed since then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsunsr View Post
    I've been on several handgun forums and read lots of discussion on how best to conceal your handgun. I'm confused. A lot of emphasis on not imprinting etc. What do I care? If I have a concealed carry permit and I have a jacket or sweater or fanny pack covering the weapon, what do I care if it imprints? What do I care if a LEO can tell I'm carrying? I have a license to carry? Is this just a matter of being politically correct? I was in a restaurant in Arkansas while on a trip and a guy walked by with an exposed handgun. I believe Arkansas is one of the states that allowed exposed carry. No one in the restaurant freaked out because this guy had a gun and no obvious indication he was LE. Please, I'm not making a statement, I'm legitimately interested in understanding.
    For me concealment has little to nothing to do with 'tactical advantage' either way (CC fo suprise or OC for deterrence). My situational awareness is my tactical advantage. I proffer IWB holsters either way anyway.

    I conceal so I don't get cops called on me. That's pretty much the only reason, unles I would be dressing for weather anyway. How much effort I make to keep from printing will depend on where I am and how likely I think someone will call the police.

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    Concealed carry means your pistol must be covered or you could be charged with brandishing.It depends what your state laws say.

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