Dissapointed with my local Gun Shop

[Phantoms]

There are idiots everywhere and I can understand a gun shop not wanting them throwing their loaded gun about.

I may have took the conversation the wrong way, I don't know. I wasn't paying attention to it until I happened to hear the cust. ask why they stopped allowing carry in the store, so I have no idea what was said before that as I was browsing guns.

It just stood out the way the salesman replied. I would have been much happier if he would have said that's just store policy or that it was because some people are idiots and don't safely handle their guns. But he responded that they're worried about someone jumping the counter and robbing them and he seemed serious when he said it.

I've never paid attention to if there is a posted sign or policy at this store. I carry concealed and have no intentions to advertise that I carry any where I go. I usually visit this store each weekend to see what's new and they're usually fairly busy.

Maybe I should of pulled the salesman aside and told him I disapproved of his answer, but I let it go (he was dealing with a customer) . I finished browsing and left. I've always been treated well and intend to still shop there.

[DefensiveCarry.com]

[BugDude]

Yeah, the sales guy may have had a bady day or perhaps this particular customer had been acting like an idiot prior to that part of the conversation. If your encounters have been positive, no reason to let one brief statement change that. If you have issue with the posting, perhaps ask the owner why they put it up.

[gottabkiddin]

I know what cha mean. Not to hijack the thread at all, but I had a similar experience, but in a more direct way. Awhile back I went to a Gun store that I sometimes purchase from and was looking for a holster. I ask one of the sales guys for some assistance and he came over and started showing me some options. We came to this one holster and he said he wasn't sure if it would fit the pistol I was buying for. He ask me did I have the pistol with me and I said yes. He then said do you want to go get it and I said I have it on me. He got a funny look on his face and got quiet. I told him I have a GFL and was it okay to remove it from my holster, he said yes, so I pulled it out slowly and with caution started to clear the pistol in as safe a direction as possible being inside the store. The guy started acting like he was getting upset and said "Man that's so uncool", or something to that effect. I looked at the guy and said what's the problem. He said "Your not supposed to be carry a loaded pistol in here" I said why, he said that the store was posted and it's clear to see the sign on the door. I then told the guy that that sign isn't recognized by the state that issued me my GFL and I'm breaking no law, and that he's the one that told me I could unholster my pistol. He then said he understood the sign has no weight by law, but he could take my magazine and unload the rounds from it and give it back to me if he wanted to. Yup, I laughed out loud and said that wouldn't be a good thing for him to do. I told him I'll be glad to leave and shop elsewhere, but what's mine is mine and sign or no sign, he should handle it professionally as I meant no harm and I respect his concern, but that's it.

Long story shot; I offered an apology to the guy and said, "look, I really thought the sign pertained to weapons that would be handled by anyone trying to trade or sell in a effort to eliminate an accidental discharge" He said no, it's because all the weapons they have on display and yada yada yada. By the end of the conversation I decided their concern was valid enough and I would from then on honor their "NO LOADED WEAPONS" sign. Now when I visit the store I unload my pistol and place the mag in my pocket, oh and I wont be offering up my pistol upon request unless the person asking for it is a LEO. If that doesn't make the store happy, well I'll take my $s else where for future purchases.

Good job on the email to the business, but I'm pretty sure it'll fall on blind eyes and deaf ears.

[Gearslammer]

None of the gun stores I go to in CT don't have that policy and if they did they would not be getting my business. That would just be hypocritical, plain dumb, and if you look at it closer a big plus for anti gunners and a hit against the 2nd Amendment. Heck, one of them has a gun range right inside lol.

[GM]

I never should give my money to a gun shop that has a non-carry policy, even when the signs do not have weight in FL.

[airslot]

I heard that they had an AD recently that exited through the front window, but my schedule hasn't allowed me to confirm this.

[Cold Warrior]

They have a point. Gun salesmen are armed and keeping an eye on the customers...and browsers and friends who just walk in. I fear that liability is behind it with no offense intended. They do not know who we are or who we have waiting outside inside a car.

[Soular]

I witnessed a customer...take out his loaded CCW and proceed to break every safe gun handling rule possible...

Let me start by stating that the following is all my opinions and my personal situation, YMMV.

All of the gun stores that I frequent have a sign that reads something along the lines of "No Loaded Weapons Allowed in Store". I have no problem shopping at any of them because I know the owners and that they are 2A supporters. I have actually asked one of them what was up with the sign, and here is the story I got in a nutshell.

The sign addresses 2 sets of people, the first is the group that is bringing a weapon into the store that they intend to present to someone in the store (service, sell, trade, appraisal, etc.) and they want to ensure that these weapons are unloaded.

The second is the group of people that BigDude is talking about above. There is just something about a gun store makes people think that is OK to draw / brandish / show off their carry piece which they normally put great effort into concealing. I don't know about you, but an un-holstered weapon in someones hands that I do not know and have a level of trust with scares the bejebus out of me.

Since that sign carries no weight here in AL, the sign serves it's purpose. The lesser informed people dutifully unload their weapons (sometimes ), and the CC crowd gets the message that they do not want them to expose their CCW in the store.

-Soular

[chiefjason]

Here's why I do business with one of my favorite shops.



I was looking for a fobus holster in another shop. I mentioned that I had the handgun and would like to try the holster out but it was loaded. the guy says, "It's a gun shop, take it out and clear it." I bought the holster.

I don't do business with stores that choose to restrict my rights. That includes gun shops. My rights are attached to my money, if one is not welcome then neither is the other.

[Magnum Mikie]

I didn't ask either, just overheard the conversation.

The part that offended me though was the attitude and statement of the saleman. He basically responded that allowing law abiding citizens to carry in the store would result in people jumping over the counter and robbing them.

It was the attitude of if you allow people to legally carry weapons, then watch out. This attitude is unacceptable, especially from a gun shop employee.

IMO, the salesman's logic is moot because bad guys with guns will ignore the store's policy on removing the ammo from guns at the door.

[C Bennett]

lol the only person thats going to jump over anything and steal anything is a CRIMINAL..I doubt the criminal is going to pay much attention to the sign...whats the bad guy gonna do..walk up look at the sign and say damn! I cant carry in here...only person that sign is hurting is the law abiding. Shops that think like that have DUMB people running them.

[C Bennett]

Here's why I do business with one of my favorite shops.



I was looking for a fobus holster in another shop. I mentioned that I had the handgun and would like to try the holster out but it was loaded. the guy says, "It's a gun shop, take it out and clear it." I bought the holster.

I don't do business with stores that choose to restrict my rights. That includes gun shops. My rights are attached to my money, if one is not welcome then neither is the other.

very nice :)

[Phantoms]

Here is the reply I received. I really do like this store. They are very pro military too. The are fixing to add a range to the Savannah store (already have one in the Hinesville store).

James,


How are you doing? This is Joshua Works owner of Mission Essential Inc. It is to my understanding that one of my new employees misinformed another customer and you overheard that. If you know me and or my stores reputation, you know that I love the friendly carry laws Georgia has. GCO a major corp within the state of georgia fights very hard for us Law Abiding Citizens. The guy that you overheard was very misinformed of our policy, funny thing is it was his first day and I guess he must have just not wanted to sound like he didn't know what he was talking about. Well Alan has corrected him of our Policy, and to just let you know We would like for you to Carry in our Stores. Just keep the thugs, non law abiding citizens out! So hopefully this helps you understand us alittle better. If you have any questions or concerns please let me know. Thanks!


Joshua Works Mission Essential Inc.

[Black Knight]

Sounds like a good response. He acknoweldged the employee was misinformed and has been corrected. I like his attempt at humor, "Just keep the thugs, non-law abiding citizens out.". Sounds like a place I would like to visit the next time I'm in Georgia.

[faif2d]

I like the Gander Mountain store sign, something like--all guns must be unloaded and checked in at the customer service desk-- right under that is --this does not apply to registered concealed carry holders--. It is all right in one place. It did seem silly to have an employ escort me and a cased long gun back to the gun counter when I had a loaded pistol in my pocket.