Security Clearance and CCW

[eethomas]

As others have said, NO YOU SHOULD NOT WAIT. I have a top secret DOD clearance and no problems at all.

[DefensiveCarry.com]

[retsupt99]

Go get that permit...

[rugerlcp]

no way.

[MoResident]

ts / sci here with others. No problems. Go Fetch!

[CORattler]

COLD WARRIOR:
What is it exactly that you show at gun shows? I know of no document or badge that would be proper to show to the person on the other side of the table. Clearances are not something I would bandy about outside of the workplace that required them.

[archer51]

Having a CHP will have no affect on obtaining a security clearance. I held a Secret and a Top Secret clearance while in the military and also had a carry permit.

[gglockster]

I've talked with my local FFL dealer about this. Many of his customers have security clearances from many different branches of the Federal Government (the Capitol is less than 15 minutes from here). A good number of these also have concealed carry permits. He has noticed only one interesting thing. He has had two cases of Federal Government employees with Top Secret clearances have the Virginia State police instant background check come back denied. In one case the guy had an outstanding domestic abuse complaint and ended up having to return his Springfield XD to the seller. In the other case the fellow got all huffy but left.

It seems to me that the two procedures are completely independent, but that the instant background check stays more on top of "issues "than the paperwork clearance process.

[OldVet]

If anything, the CC permit should hasten your security clearance.

[gdkenoyer]

Go for it.

The two have nothing to do with each other; having a CCW will do nothing for the clearance process.

The govvie folks doing the security checks could care less if you have a CCW, and the CCW background check touches only a fraction of what the security check does (depending on level).

But do leave your weapon at home if you go for the poly 8^)

[Pioneer]

I seem to recall the early days of the Obama administration, regarding getting jobs with them, an official announcing that concealed firearm permit holders need not apply.

Other than that, there should be no problem. Obtaining a permit demonstrates your respect for obeying the law. Don't try to hide it, because that may look suspicious and it will come up on a basic check. On the background form where it says to list any other licenses, permits, etc, list it.

[DaveH]

I seem to recall the early days of the Obama administration, regarding getting jobs with them, an official announcing that concealed firearm permit holders need not apply.

Getting a clearance is one thing. Getting a job is another -- esp. at a police level.

As I said above, some anti-RKBA supervisor might just not select someone for any reason, as long as they don't admit it -- just picked someone who "fits better."

At the highest levels they don't even need to hide it.

[jonesy_26]

I have DOD clearance and there were no issues. I was pleasantly surprised to see how many folks I work with have a CCW.

[SIGguy229]

No...

[Mic]

How could exercising your 2am rights hurt geting a clearance

[rolyat63]

Getting a clearance is one thing. Getting a job is another -- esp. at a police level.

As I said above, some anti-RKBA supervisor might just not select someone for any reason, as long as they don't admit it -- just picked someone who "fits better."

At the highest levels they don't even need to hide it.

The person who picks you for employment where a DOD clearance is required is not usually the same person who see the security app. In fact they are done online through the OPM now so your local FSO/SSO will see the main app not the private part. At this point though you are hired contigent on you getting the clearance approved. So, technically you get the job offer before you fill out the paperwork and even if the security guy is HR guy he/she doesn't adjudcicate the clearance just fill out the correct docs etcs...