What does it mean if a state is called "shall issue"

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    Question What does it mean if a state is called "shall issue"

    Someone referred to WA as a shall issue state in another thread.

    What does that mean? Thanks in advance.

    (and also, what does it mean when somebody calls a gun a bug??) So much to learn.

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    It means as long as you meet the requirements, you get issued a permit when you apply.

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    BUG = Back Up Gun
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    Quote Originally Posted by cammo girl View Post
    (and also, what does it mean when somebody calls a gun a bug??) So much to learn.

    BUG = Back Up Gun
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    OK, thanks.

    DUH on the bug thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cammo girl View Post
    OK, thanks.

    DUH on the bug thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    It means as long as you meet the requirements, you get issued a permit when you apply.
    As I understand it the requirements are usually just a clean record, not a performance test. That's the way it is in michigan. You take the class, apply for your CPL (concealed pistol license), wait anywhere from 1-8 weeks and they mail it to you.

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    In states with "shall issue" carry permit laws, the laws require government authorities to issue a carry permit whenever a citizen has met a specific set of legal requirements.

    This is in contrast to states with "may issue" laws, where the issuance of a permit is left up to the personal discretion of an individual bureaucrat rather than by the applicant meeting specific, concrete requirements laid out by state law. Sometimes that personal discretion is used to filter out people of a specific skin color, people who haven't contributed to the correct campaign fund, or people who aren't famous. It's a bad system, in other words, ripe for abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reyno2ac View Post
    As I understand it the requirements are usually just a clean record, not a performance test. That's the way it is in michigan. You take the class, apply for your CPL (concealed pistol license), wait anywhere from 1-8 weeks and they mail it to you.
    When I applied for mine in Arizona, I had to fire 10 shots and hit a certain area on the target. Not the toughest of "performance tests" but more than just signing a piece of paper.
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    As to "BUGs": For me, if I carry more than one gun, it is more for alternate access rather than "back up". In the winter, it is difficult to access an IWB holstered weapon with a thick winter coat over a sweater zipped up tight. That's when a snub nosed 38 in the opposite coat pocket is a good idea. Why opposite side you may ask? I carry IWB on my strong side (right hand side). If I have anything in my right hand (car keys, umbrella, walmart bag, etc.) then how could I possibly get to my CCW on my right side IWB under a coat? Walk with your left hand in your coat pocket with gun ready and no one is the wiser. You can even shoot the small revolver through your coat if you had to without drawing it out. Something to think about as you are contemplating a BUG.
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    In Indiana, pay your fee, get fingerprinted, pass the background check, get your LTCH.

    No B.S. "classes" to purchase.

    Still unconstitutional, in my opinion.

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    Here's a good resource as well:

    Defensive Carry - Acronyms
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    Quote Originally Posted by BugDude View Post
    As to "BUGs": For me, if I carry more than one gun, it is more for alternate access rather than "back up". In the winter, it is difficult to access an IWB holstered weapon with a thick winter coat over a sweater zipped up tight. That's when a snub nosed 38 in the opposite coat pocket is a good idea. Why opposite side you may ask? I carry IWB on my strong side (right hand side). If I have anything in my right hand (car keys, umbrella, walmart bag, etc.) then how could I possibly get to my CCW on my right side IWB under a coat? Walk with your left hand in your coat pocket with gun ready and no one is the wiser. You can even shoot the small revolver through your coat if you had to without drawing it out. Something to think about as you are contemplating a BUG.
    'Same goes for me. I'll often carry 2 (also called a 'New York Reload'), but it's because I want alternatives that will depend on the situation. There is no 'primary' or 'secondary' in my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHEC724 View Post
    'Same goes for me. I'll often carry 2 (also called a 'New York Reload'), but it's because I want alternatives that will depend on the situation. There is no 'primary' or 'secondary' in my mind.
    I'm with ya there...either one is "primary" if I can access it best first based on circumstances. I don't carry two very often. All my carry guns I would consider a primary weapon. 38s, 9mms, 40.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pax View Post
    In states with "shall issue" carry permit laws, the laws require government authorities to issue a carry permit whenever a citizen has met a specific set of legal requirements.

    This is in contrast to states with "may issue" laws, where the issuance of a permit is left up to the personal discretion of an individual bureaucrat rather than by the applicant meeting specific, concrete requirements laid out by state law. Sometimes that personal discretion is used to filter out people of a specific skin color, people who haven't contributed to the correct campaign fund, or people who aren't famous. It's a bad system, in other words, ripe for abuse.

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