I finally joined the +1 carry club

I finally joined the +1 carry club

This is a discussion on I finally joined the +1 carry club within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Since I got my permit about 2 months ago, I have been carrying a pf-9 every day, ever since israeli style. I just had a ...

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    I finally joined the +1 carry club

    Since I got my permit about 2 months ago, I have been carrying a pf-9 every day, ever since israeli style. I just had a fear of carrying +1, not because I was worried about pulling the trigger (I am very confident in my safe gun handling), but I was just paranoid about mechanical failure of the gun, or somehow the round igniting without the primer being struck. I knew all the reasons why I should carry +1 I just couldn't seem to get over my fears. After seeing the video of the store keeper shot and killed fumbling trying to rack his gun, it really got me to thinking of the possibility of screwing up racking the slide under stress...after reading all the posts on here and ktog.org with all the reasons you should have one in the pipe, I loaded one in the pipe and went about my day...I will admit for the first hour or so I was nervous...but after getting over my fears I will now carry +1 all the time...thanks to everyone whos comments may have helped me get over my issue.


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    good for you... carrying one in the pipe is 99.9% your best bet
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    Repetitive practice will overcome your apprehension. However, I am NOT a fan of the Israeli style. I carry a 1911 ready to go. If I need it, the last thing I need to contend with is more mechanical processes. There's just too much at stake!
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    It's only "+1" if you top off the magazine after chambering a cartridge.

    If you just have one in the chamber and are short a cartridge in the mag it's CONDITION 1.

    Not trying to be a jerk, but I'm seeing a surge in this being used incorrectly, personally I blame the twits on YouTube.

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    What is Israeli style style? No holster?
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    Congratulations. You are better prepared for defense. Practice, always carry holstered (trigger covered), and use safe gun handling techniques. Stay safe and do not get complacent. Be very consciencious about posessing lethal force and carrying a loaded weapon. It is a huge responsibility. The bullet belongs to you even after it leaves the muzzle. Proper care and precautions in safe gun handling are your best measures. Take care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach and Holly View Post
    What is Israeli style style? No holster?
    I believe it is carrying with an empty chamber and chambering a round by racking the slide as you draw the weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach and Holly View Post
    What is Israeli style style? No holster?
    Israeli Style= Condition 3. Magazine inserted, chamber empty.

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    Congrats on your new carry style...you've just saved a second for a potential 2 second decision.
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    Your decision some day could very well make the difference.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    It's only "+1" if you top off the magazine after chambering a cartridge.

    If you just have one in the chamber and are short a cartridge in the mag it's CONDITION 1.
    Isnt it still Condition 1 if you carry +1 (and still have a full mag)?
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    Congrats on your decision.... It could save your life...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9MMare View Post
    Isnt it still Condition 1 if you carry +1 (and still have a full mag)?
    Yes. But you can have Condition 1 without the +1. I've seen it said recently on multiple occasions where people have either misunderstood or misstated thinking that Condition 1 by itself = +1.

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    Thanks. Just wanted to be sure I understood it properly.
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    Could be worse,could be condition 5 "Barney" style gun empty bullet in pocket
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