Lawsuit pits state law vs. University of Ky regulations

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddyfish View Post
    UK and I mean UK, not England, needs their teeth kicked in sometimes.
    That must make you a Louisville fan. Sorry that's a inside joke to us hillbillies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21bubba View Post
    That must make you a Louisville fan. Sorry that's a inside joke to us hillbillies.
    That's pronounced LUVILLE!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rljohns View Post
    That's pronounced LUVILLE!!
    Hmm, a outsider that mocks our language. Slay him!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janq View Post
    I read "UK" in your thread subject as being that of the United Kingdom.
    Imagine my confusion to start.


    University of Kentucky would better read as 'U of K' or 'UKY' as they use for their website; Welcome to the University of Kentucky

    Just a suggestion toward the rest of us among the nation and world unfamiliar with Kentucky and/or this specific school.

    Agreed Matt, it is stupefying that he would volunteer that information.
    Maybe they had indicated to him request/demand to search his vehicle next (?).

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    The same happened to me (UK = United Kingdom ); I always before referred to University of Kentucky as UKY.
    I wonder the reason because he told about the gun in his car.
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    Colleges have the right to regulate the possession of concealed weapons on university-owned properties, according to the Kentucky State Police Web site.
    If that's true, it sounds like an open and shut case.

    Looavul, Luhvul, Lewisville, Loaville, Looeyville etc. we know what you mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rljohns View Post
    That's pronounced LUVILLE!!
    Isn't is actually "Loovul"?

    And "Naaashvul"?

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    UK Police responded to an anonymous claim that Mitchell had a firearm in his locker and did not find one, Mitchell told police he had a registered gun in his car, kept at K-lot. According to court reports, police escorted him to his car and were ordered to confiscate the weapon and Mitchell cooperated.
    THAT was the mistake. You DO NOT talk to the police. If he had stayed silent that would have been the end of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy W. View Post
    If that's true, it sounds like an open and shut case.

    Looavul, Luhvul, Lewisville, Loaville, Looeyville etc. we know what you mean.


    just because someone post something on a web site is irrelevant....the only real point og govt is to protect my rights and the school is part of the govt so they shouldnt be able to deny them ever.... here in GA its a felony offense to carry to my college hopefullly HB615 will fix that
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    Hello everyone... I am the one and only student/former employee in the lawsuit. To answer some of the issues. I was unaware of the overhearing of the conversation at the time. I later recalled it after the events had happened. Police questioned me, searched my locker, and me trying to help... told them that I didn't carry to the hospital... In trying to help the egragarious accusations. In hindsight, I shouldn't have opened my mouth... but why should I hide? Isn't every child taught to trust police officers? I thought I was "doing my duty" which I now regret.

    And the issue about the firearm... They stated at first that I was going to be suspended... and they would locate the firearm with my permission and place it in the trunk. Upon arrival, the supervisor of the officer that was with me radioed him and told him to wait. When she arrived, she stated they were going to confiscate it. If I had known they were going to take it, I wouldn't have consented to them placing it into the car (again... hindsight is 20/20). I would have told them that I would love to see a search warrant for that... (wonder what judge would issue one for a suspension of an employee with no laws broken... ha!). I did not do this for the ability to challenge UK (the University of Kentucky) as I did not know the policy existed. They have signs on hospital doors stating no guns... why not at every point of entrance (including parking lots)? Besides... the only people the POLICIES affect are the law abiding gun owners. There have been 8-9 instances of armed robberies/assaults on UK's campus in the past 1 1/2 years. Why didn't UK's great "gun-free zone" policies prevent them?
    Below is a link of the original story with a copy of my lawsuit. Thanks for all the support.

    Grad student sues UK over being fired for having handgun in car - Latest News - Kentucky.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by rljohns View Post
    That's pronounced LUVILLE!!
    For true blue University of Kentucky fans, the only correct way to pronounce the name of the state's largest and most left wing city is... "Loserville"!!
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    Well, good luck. The issue faces many imponderables--like how students secure firearms in dorms, etc. I have a few reservations about this myself in fact, but we'll see...

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    Welcome to the forum LexMike! Thanks for sharing.
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    First Off.... I Apologize....

    I don't mean to bump an old thread (Especially with my first post) We are going through a similar situation here in Oregon. Backstory is here:

    College student suspended despite handgun permit | KATU.com - Breaking News, Sports, Traffic and Weather - Portland, Oregon | Local & Regional

    Note the part where the School "Ordered" him to undergo a Mental Health evaluation prior to being reinstated as well as writing a 10 page essay on "Following The Law"

    Which I find absolutely hilarious. In Oregon (Like Most States) The State Legislature is the sole body charged with law pertaining to firearms and it is explicitly spelled out that State Law pre-empts local laws. And basically, if you have a Concealed Handgun License, you are exempt from any local law or ordinance pertaining to possession of a fire arm in a Public Building. Actually, your Concealed Handgun License exempts you from the few cities in the State that have ordinances prohibiting Open Carry, but I digress.

    Here the Oregon Firearms Federation has filed suit against the Oregon University System to get them to acknowledge they have no legal basis to prohibit Concealed Handgun License owners their RKBA.

    I hope this is resolved soon, I'm getting tired of "Government Enties" enacting illegal gun policies and basically saying screw you, we know we cant do this, but we going to anyway until someone sues us...

    Thanks for listening.

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