This is a discussion on From Glock Talk Observations from actual shootings.... within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by OPFOR but why his post was a "rewriting" of an essay that had diametrically opposed conclusions ... That's why I said mirror ...
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I read the OP on glock talk and the mouseguns deadmeat link and they are polar opposites. What am I supposed to make of well articulated anecdotal evidence from two people looking at handgun wounding in humans, where each person says the opposite? In cases like this it is best to stick with conventional wisdom IMO
Conventional wisdom has its place. It doesnt become conventional because its flat out wrong or not supported by real world facts. Now that is not to say that conventional wisdom doesnt have to change as technology advances..etc
One thing they both agree on is that penetration and hitting vitals is the most important factor. That rules out exotic ammo and verifies my own thinking about slow heavy hollow points such as HST2. Penetrates deep and wont overpenetrate like ball ammo. I actually keep a clip of ball for home defense if I need to shoot through doors or drywall in a defense scenario. However for carry I am not interested in shooting through car doors or glass as much as I am interested in not hurting any innocent bystanders
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Lookin4U's OP from Glock Talk pretty much states my view on gun fights as far as CC is concerned. When there is a need to shoot there is no guarantee with any firearm including rifles and shotguns. Therefore you should shoot until the threat is no longer there. So with that thought in mind I want something I can control for fast accurate follow-up shots. Putting a burst into COM, if threat is still there then shift to the face and follow with a burst and continue until there is no longer a threat. That is why I carry a Hi-cap 9mm with DPX ammo.
English is a tricky thing, much like bullets. Sometimes they hit and cause great and instantaneous damage, sometimes they pass right through.
It was a fascinating post to read both for the perspective of the original poster, and for the theater of a post derailed.
For whatever reason I have been subscribed to a number of posts lately that have been this or that in regards choice of weapon, caliber, capacity.
I have other thoughts, but it is as in my tag line, though I will reverse for emphasis: Everything is something, but nothing is everything.
Miyamoto Musashi, The Book of Five RingsYou should not have any special fondness for a particular weapon, or anything else, for that matter
Blah blah blah,,, what caliber is best has so many scientific variables, it comes down to what the individual shooter prefers and carries
Timid people sleep peacefully at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.