Without good and sufficient reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by REVMAN View Post
    I always have a "good and sufficient" reason to carry.
    +1, I always carry to protect myself and the ones I love and care about.

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    i think the reason why they dont want you to carry in a chuch is it just that a church, is there a loop hole to that law, as in if you were givin permission to do so from the paster?? If not then dont break the law and lose the right to have your CCW/CPL.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by XDM40cal View Post
    i think the reason why they dont want you to carry in a chuch is it just that a church, is there a loop hole to that law, as in if you were givin permission to do so from the paster?? If not then dont break the law and lose the right to have your CCW/CPL.....
    Church is a body of people...not a building. BG don't seem to mind shooting at a church.

    The VA law was purposefully vague....because heaven forbid someone in the General Assembly make a definitive stance on self-defense in a church....because no one wants to face the fact it happens....and it's better to post a sign than actually do something in self-defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGguy229 View Post
    Church is a body of people...not a building. BG don't seem to mind shooting at a church.

    The VA law was purposefully vague....because heaven forbid someone in the General Assembly make a definitive stance on self-defense in a church....because no one wants to face the fact it happens....and it's better to post a sign than actually do something in self-defense.

    The law isn't black and white.
    There was a bill that tried to this session.

    It appears to be dead.

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    HB 106 Concealed handguns; person with valid permit allowed to carry in place of worship with permission.
    Mark L. Cole

    Summary as introduced:
    Carrying concealed handguns. Allows a person with a valid concealed handgun permit to carry a concealed handgun in a place of worship with permission of the leader of the religious meeting. The bill also eliminates the restriction against carrying a concealed handgun in a restaurant that serves alcohol.
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    Here, it's legal unless they post the doors.

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    So ambiguous its unenforceable. If you look at the history of the law you might find it was passed after the War of Northern Aggression and reconstruction as a system of laws designed to hobble certain newly freed minorities.
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    My "Good and sufficient reason" is that I enjoy living, and I've become addicted to it. I just don't believe that I can quit, without serious problems. And I don't think that any "rehab" or intervention will help me to break that addiciton. I carry my gun, legally, of course, because I intend to do whatever it takes to continue my addiction.
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    My Pastor knows I carry and it has been given his blessing. That is what makes it legal here in Texas. My reason is the 2A and the BG doesn't care about legalities.
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    Does not history and the Bible teach us that good and sufficient reason has been around since, oh let me think, THE BEGINNING OF MAN! AS IN CAIN AND ABEL! sorry to yell but gee wizz.. i just can't even try to understand that kind of thinking, and praise the LORD i never will..I can can give you plenty of scriptures to back this up.

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    In the words of Mr T, "I pity the fool" who tries this in our church. At any given service there are 8-10 men (and a few women ) who are armed. Our pastor knows he's the best protected pastor in town. All of our outside doors have someone standing by them during the service, and the parking lot as well.

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    My good and sufficient reason is easy. I am one of the pastors, it is my job to shepherd the flock and shepherds were armed against those that would do the flock harm. My armament is just different for a different enemy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by me View Post
    My good and sufficient reason is easy. I am one of the pastors, it is my job to shepherd the flock and shepherds were armed against those that would do the flock harm. My armament is just different for a different enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGguy229 View Post
    Church is a body of people...not a building. BG don't seem to mind shooting at a church.

    The VA law was purposefully vague....because heaven forbid someone in the General Assembly make a definitive stance on self-defense in a church....because no one wants to face the fact it happens....and it's better to post a sign than actually do something in self-defense.

    The law isn't black and white.
    Good point.
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