Anti article of the NRA convention

Anti article of the NRA convention

This is a discussion on Anti article of the NRA convention within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; and my email to this bozo........................... May 22, 2006 New York Daily News Dear Mr. Daly, I read your article of the 2006 ...

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    Anti article of the NRA convention

    and my email to this bozo...........................

    May 22, 2006

    New York Daily News

    Dear Mr. Daly,

    I read your article of the 2006 NRA convention today. I still hold a fair amount of confusion with your comparisons of said convention with victims of gun violence in New York City.

    Tell me sir, do you make the same analogies with General Motors Corporation, when a driver steers his automobile into a crowd of people? No, I suppose you haven't. According to every legitimate study I have ever seen, automobiles are overwhelmingly involved in more incidents that result in injury and fatality to any one class of person, save the horrors of war.

    While gun related deaths are certainly a tragedy, denouncing an instrument because it has been perverted in the use of a tragedy, serves little purpose. How many times has a recording instrument, pen, typewriter, ink press, computer, et al, been used in a perverse manner to harm someone? Do you see the point?

    Reading your piece, I presume that you are very much opposed to firearm ownership and have clouded your op-ed as legitimate journalism. A fair and balanced report with factual insight regarding firearms, instead of emotional trauma of criminal acts that just happened to involve the unlawful use of a firearms, would have gone further to make your point. Given the tone of your piece, my sarcastic senses are surprised that a full scale killing spree didn't occur with the vast numbers of firearms present in Milwaukee this past weekend.

    You'll be happy to know that firearm ownership in New York City is heavily regulated under the Sullivan act for the past 100 years. However, according to studies conducted by the United States Department of Justice over the past 25 years, my city of residence (Indianapolis) where firearms are not heavily regulated, violent crime is dramatically lower than New York City, Chicago and other major cities with near bans of firearms. Furthermore, states which have passed "shall issue" gun laws, have experienced a sharp decline in violent crime and a decrease in overall crime. Would you please care to rationally explain the results of these studies with legitimate scientific studies to prove otherwise?

    It is my hope that the police will always be present to timely intercede on your behalf if you or your loved ones are unfortunate enough to experience being victims of a violent crime. I choose to stack the odds in my favor until the police arrive.

    As always,

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    moonbats barking is my take on it lol
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    Not trying to be "overly" critical of the poor soul but.......that piece made the simi undigested parts of my breakfast sausage try to jump back into my lower throat. It was,was,well,it just left me speechless. He would be the (IMO) classical example of the no nuke,save the whale,don't hurt the baby Harp seals,save the Spotted Owl,don't cut tree's that will be used for toilet paper,the hell with the paperwork,"welfare for everybody" kinda guy.

    He voted for kerry and will lobby to get hillery elected.

    He supported clinton even though he did "you know what" to "you know who"(or visa versa),"you know where".

    And take a close look at his picture. The pic that he authorized to be put on this sight. If that's not a "DUH" kinda pose,I don't know what is.

    Hope he doesn't get the chance to breed !!

    Seeeee, that wasn't being overly critical,wuzzit ?? -------

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    Carlson pushed the stroller on through the acres of guns like the ones that have killed thousands of New Yorkers, hundreds of them children
    I'd love to see his stats on that one. Wonder how far back he had to go to get numbers that big? Especially the children.

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    Joel Best's book, Damned Lies and Statistics, shows they don't need supporting statistics or correctly quoted references. If they write it then it's true, at least in their mind.
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    Hope he doesn't get the chance to breed !!
    Amen to that!!!

    His rant is typical of the non-logic gut emotion we are so used to seeing - only more extreme. Sad thing is some of the sheep who are sitting on the fence will read that and drop down on the anti side - so easily swayed by emotive claptrap.

    We are supposedly sentient beings - in some categeories of H Sapiens I truly wonder.
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    A sad, delusional person who obviously does no research of his own.

    There was no information in his article. The amount of information he tried to present could have been summed up in two sentences. "There were a lot of guns there. Lots of people in New York have been killed with guns."

    Not very good journalism even if you take out the emotional propaganda.
    eschew obfuscation

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    I was there on Friday and saw many of the people the writer mentioned. It was good to see freinds and their familys enjoying the convention. I was one of those standing in line to purchase Teds book, Kill It and Grill It. Good book by the way. He did a great job playing our National Anthem and later speaking to the assembled group. I'd like to see him write a letter to the editor. He'd rip um a new orifice.
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    These posts really need to start coming with a rage factor. Like that one enraged me a good amount so I'd give it about an 8.
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    I used to get upset about this kind of stuff but don't anymore. Much to the wife's displeasure. (She liked to get me spun up on this for fun! lol) The guy is delusional and/or a moron. More to be pittied than hated. I just hope, for his sake and that of his family, that he never really has to confront a violent criminal himself. He seems the type that would just lay there and take whatever kind of sick death the BG would give him.

    And I'd like to get me one of them "Taurus automatics"!

    I'm also glad that I have a Glock 23 and not one of the 17s. Those models must be overly violent since one of them "killed NYPD Detective Dillon Stewart in Brooklyn last year." Damn those 17s, damn them to hell!!!
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    See ! See ! This is the exact reason that I don't (or ever will) own a Glock. Somehow they seem to kill people. GAWD-DAMMUM-TA-HELL !! --------

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    many of them handguns that have no real purpose other than to kill people...
    I knew there was a reason I got a gun (said with much sarcasm!!). What a moron.
    So, if they take away all the guns and BG's start using baseball bats, what then? Take away all baseball bats? Or how about knives? I'd like to see some statistics on stabbings in NY. I bet those numbers would far outweigh shootings.
    I have an idea. A gun safety course should be incorporated into drivers education courses so that individuals who take drivers ed will at least have a slight understanding of guns and how to handle them(which may not help here in TN since you are not required to take drivers ed). I believe the fear people have of firearms is simply ignorance. I have an example: The mother of a friend of mine was terrified of guns. She was a middle class house wife. Then a few months ago a man was peeping on the back porch of her daughters and MY fiance's apt. which the BG had to climb a fence and a flight of stairs to access. So, her daughter got a gun and we talked 'mom' into going to the range with us. She jumped everytime a shot was fired. She ended up shooting a few different calibers and now is shopping for herself and plans on taking some training courses and getting her carry license. The point to this story is, the only reason she was afraid is cause the 6 o'clock news said guns are dangerous and guns make a big loud scary noise(also said with much sarcasm). After she got over the noise and learned how to properly handle a gun she fell in love. If everyone would just try out a gun before making up there minds I think there would be a lot less Michael Daly's out there.

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    One of the spinoffs of free speech in this great nation is that even such an idiot can publicly speak his mind (as little as it is...).

    Unfortunately, while our Constitution permits his rant, he deftly overlooks the Second Amendment...duh!

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    Steelhorse....good letter to Daly.
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    This is a copy of what I just sent to Mr. Daly's e-mail :

    Dear Mr. Daly,

    I just finished reading your article on the 135th NRA convention that was held in NY recently. I have to say, as an NRA member, shooting enthusiast, CCW holder, father, husband, and upstanding member of my community (I am a career firefighter/EMT for my town’s fire department), I found your article rather pleasing. I enjoyed reading that there were so many families and children on hand to view and enjoy the “gigantic weapons fest”. Being a family man yourself, I’m sure you can agree that spending time with your family, as a family, is a great way to develop and stimulate great relationships with your children and your spouse. There’s really nothing better and more enjoyable. Some families go to the park, some go to the beach, some go to car shows, and some go to gun shows. There is nothing inherently wrong with any one of those. Unfortunately, you seem to feel that there is only something inherently wrong with families, or maybe just children, being involved with gun shows or just guns in particular. You seem to feel that guns are not a subject that children or families, or maybe anyone, should have reason to find some happiness or enjoyment from. Fortunately for myself and my family, and many others like us, that is not the case. All the people and families you saw that day were very much enjoying themselves and having a great time with other like minded people. I think that is something you should think about. It’s not what the family does to get together and enjoy themselves, it’s the fact that they get together to enjoy something as a family that really matters. Guns and the shooting sports that relate to them are a great way for families to enjoy the outdoors and have some fun.

    I also noticed that you seem to relate the “gun” as the center point for crime. You make it a fact to point out in your article that the Glock 17, the same model that was on a t-shirt, was the gun used to kill a detective in Brooklyn last year. Yet you never mention a word about the person who was responsible for USING that Glock to kill the detective. From your reference, I am only to assume that the Glock in question shot the officer all by itself? I think you are placing the blame in the wrong place. As unfortunate an event as that was, and is when any sort of weapon or anything used as a weapon, the blame lies solely on the individual who is responsible for committing the act and not on the tool used to commit it. I’m sure an intelligent person such as yourself can agree with me on that point. You would no more blame a match for starting a fire than you would blame the person who struck the match in the first place.

    One thing I would like to ask you before myself and my family head outside to enjoy this beautiful day here in NH, is this :

    Since guns are so dangerous, and by your piece mentioned above this is the only conclusion I can draw from it, please tell me how many children, detectives, or anyone for that matter, were killed or injured during the course of the convention? With so many dangerous guns just lying around, I’m quite sure that some child or police officer or innocent bystander must have been shot and killed. If you could answer that question for me, it would certainly help my understanding of your article and possibly impose on me some understanding of your opposition to families enjoying firearms or just firearms in general.


    Keith Munroe

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    <----My LT was unhappy that I did not have my PASS-Tag at that fire. But I found the body so he said he would overlook it. :)

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