March 19th, 2010 11:06 AM
The Chief of the dept, or his assigned designee, has the power to issue the license in MA. Since you know him it was most assured that it would not be an issue. In MA, others may not have the same outcome in the same town even if their background is as good or better than yours in regards to the background check, personals, and criminal checks. It's the Chief's/designee's discretion solely. MA is a "may-issue" state unlike your neighboor NH which is "shall-issue". If your criminal background check comes back clean you get an LTC. Period.
Originally Posted by Mdanm56
I'll double-check my latest law and rules book for MA, but if you live in MA, the Chief/designee of the town you live in does not have to give you anything. He/she could not like the color of your hair or the type of sneakers you wore when you dropped off your paperwork. If he/she doesn't want to issue you anything, not even an FID, you won't get one. Period. "May-issue"...
You have a better chance of getting an out-of-state permit to carry than you do an LTC in-state. The State Police handles out-of-state permits and grants them a hefty percentage more than in-state.
I will say congrtas on the permit though! Carry safe and carry always!! :)
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March 19th, 2010 11:20 AM
True that it is up to the chief and the mayor/selectmen TELL the chief what his gun policies WILL BE on issuing LTCs.
Originally Posted by gddyup
However, it is NOT true (any more) that Boston won't issue a permit. In fact they turn them around in ~4 weeks average these days (a lot quicker than many towns). They do tend to restrict one to NOT CARRYING (only possession for hunting/target/sporting) unless you are of a "privileged class", however. I've trained a number of people prepping for their Boston test (range test with a PD owned .38Spl revolver, minimum score is 210/300 to get a LTC) and every one of them has passed the test and been issued a LTC within a few weeks of the range test.
MSP turned over issuance of NR LTCs to EOPS and thus EOPS set a new policy in place to make it much more difficult. Now requires an annual in-person interview in Chelsea, MA and they are issuing many restricted to hunting/target/sporting . . . which makes it a waste of time/money for most NRs.
MA does not recognize ANY other state's permits.
Originally Posted by ArmyCop
Also, very few towns issue a LEOSA-compliant ID that can thus be used as a permit.
To add insult to injury, one can not purchase anything (ammo or guns) in MA w/o a MA RESIDENT LTC (NRs can't purchase anything even with a NR LTC) and your badge will only really cover you for duty firearm and nothing else.
Correction, you can carry anything you want (other than a gun designated by MGL as an "assault weapon"). The problem is that few guns are legal for a MA Dealer to transfer, therefore prices are ridiculous on things like Glocks, etc. Private transfers are not affected by this law and thus with patience (and lots of $$), one can buy damn near any handgun.
Originally Posted by JAT40
Race, sex, etc. may well impact what you get for a LTC as some chiefs have indeed shown very visible signs that they don't abide by Federal non-discrimination laws.
Originally Posted by AlexHassin
Wrong, they do NOT have to issue you any LTC at all. MGLs makes it totally discretionary on the chief's part and they can legally use "suitability" to deny you. A man was denied in one town and his only offense was that he was sitting in the children's section of the town's public library and refused to leave that section when told that he couldn't sit there. No criminal action resulted, but he's deemed "unsuitable".
Originally Posted by Mdanm56
March 19th, 2010 11:22 AM
There is a ton of info on individual towns wrt difficulty in getting LTCs and laws in MA relating to possession/carrying located in the MA gun laws sub-forum on Northeastshooters.com - Northeastshooters.com News
Happy reading . . . your head is likely to explode after reading all that stuff in the stickies.
March 19th, 2010 11:38 AM
my aunt lives in natick about a stone throw away from doug flutie's house.
i have to say that it has to be one of the safest town i've ever been in. i didn't know they were so strict on gun laws!
got to texas as fast as i could...Fuhgeddaboudit!
March 19th, 2010 11:49 AM
The statute states the following;
Delays and waits on the order of months (i.e. 12 weeks = 3 months) is far beyond lawful allowance by statute and should be investigated on a case by case basis by the applicant as to the issuing authority (town/city or for non-residents and towns with no police force the state police as applicable) and/or direct to the MA 'Firearms Records Bureau'.
(e) Within seven days of the receipt of a completed application for a license to carry or possess firearms, or renewal of same, the licensing authority shall forward one copy of the application and one copy of the applicant's fingerprints to the colonel of state police, who shall within 30 days advise the licensing authority, in writing, of any disqualifying criminal record of the applicant arising from within or without the commonwealth and whether there is reason to believe that the applicant is disqualified for any of the foregoing reasons from possessing a license to carry or possess firearms. In searching for any disqualifying history of the applicant, the colonel shall utilize, or cause to be utilized, files maintained by the department of probation and statewide and nationwide criminal justice, warrant and protection order information systems and files including, but not limited to, the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. The colonel shall inquire of the commissioner of the department of mental health relative to whether the applicant is disqualified from being so licensed. If the information available to the colonel does not indicate that the possession of a firearm or large capacity firearm by the applicant would be in violation of state or federal law, he shall certify such fact, in writing, to the licensing authority within said 30 day period...
...The licensing authority shall, within 40 days from the date of application, either approve the application and issue the license or deny the application and notify the applicant of the reason for such denial in writing; provided, however, that no such license shall be issued unless the colonel has certified, in writing, that the information available to him does not indicate that the possession of a firearm or large capacity firearm by the applicant would be in violation of state or federal law.
Source - M.G.L - Chapter 140, Section 131
Firearms Records Bureau
Criminal History Systems Board
200 Arlington Street, Suite 2200
Chelsea, MA 02150
Criminal History Systems Board (CHSB) - Executive Office of Public Safety
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March 19th, 2010 08:44 PM
Non-resident permits are ridiculous. You have to go through a physical interview and then pay $100 for one year.
Originally Posted by gddyup
March 20th, 2010 08:18 PM
Mass gun laws
If you have a DUI or a fist fight on your record no go.
I have a friend how lost his job as a armed security guard because he got in a fist fight in school and could not renew his LTC.
Last town I lived in I was only able to get a target and hunting permit.
Know I have a LTC all lawful purposes. Large capacity.
It all depends on the city/town you live in.
March 21st, 2010 12:35 AM
Originally Posted by whitetrashfarm
Some town chiefs are pro-gun and issue unrestricted LTC's to anyone meeting the legal criteria.
Others will stick you with a restricted license, if they issue one at all, and not even the best of firearms lawyers can get them to budge.
In some cases it is cheaper to move to a "green" town. (See the link to NES forums).
April 14th, 2010 04:49 PM
Ma ltc- alp
I had my MA LTC for ALP...At the time I was living in Sharon , went in with the paper work, set up an interview with the chief and I had it within a month...and as others have said one needs to stay within the local town and the local chief will decide! Good luck!
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