Field trip to the zoo

Field trip to the zoo

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    Field trip to the zoo

    Going on a school sponsored field trip to Riverbank Zoo in Columbia,SC in a couple of weeks. We will be taking buses provided by the school district. I know that a law was recently passed that allows a person with a cwp to be on school property as long as the weapon remains secured in the vehicle, but what about this situation. I don not care for the idea of being several hours away unarmed. How would you handle this? I do not want to draw attention to myself by making a bunch of phone calls and asking questions. Was hoping someone had been in this position before and could offer some insight on how they handled it.
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    In Ohio you can only have it if you are picking up or dropping off your kid. Meaning if you get out of your car you must secure your CCW.

    What state are you in?
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    I suspect that is going to be a no-go, because you'll have to get our of your car while armed to get on the bus.

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    We are in SC. And you are right I have to get out of my car to board the bus. Looks like I am out of luck. Worse case I could slip my little Berretta 950BS in 25 cal. into my front pocket.

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    I would play it safe and not carry. You don't want to be a test case.
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    Is it possible for you to follow the bus in your own car? Or are you slated for bus monitor as well?

    In any case, take a good sturdy "non weapon" like a pen or strong magazine (the reading kind) and as always don't forget your head and SA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BkCo1 View Post
    I would play it safe and not carry. You don't want to be a test case.
    Semper Fi
    PS: Your best weapon is your brain.

    I agree, i do not want to be a test case. Found out about Disneys dislike of knives that clip on your pants pocket. If I had put the knife in my pocket no harm no foul. Thay were nice enough to rent me a locker to store the Emerson in for the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BkCo1 View Post
    I would play it safe and not carry. You don't want to be a test case.
    Semper Fi
    PS: Your best weapon is your brain.
    Agreed. Best weapon is between your ears. Also like to point out that you should not just rely on "Gun-fu"; you should develop other weapons (hands and feet).

    Still and all, it's a personal decision. God forbid something happens and there you are unarmed, "playing it safe." Let's say you break the rules and carry deep cover. BG hijacks the bus, you save the day with your illegal concealed weapon. You think anyone's going to press charges?

    Of course they will, if even the slightest thing goes wrong...BG takes a shot at you since you draw on him, misses and pots little Johnny. Now who's the bad guy?

    But if everything goes like a Hollywood movie, you should be all right.

    Alternatively (and I have taken this route with my own kids) - drive yourself and your kid to the zoo in your own vehicle, armed to the teeth as usual. I don't trust school bus drivers anyway, and school buses don't even have seat belts.

    But if your kids go to government, er, public, schools, they might not give you that choice. My kids are in Catholic schools so they always let us make up our own minds as to arrangements like driving etc. Being unemployed at the moment, I have misgivings about what'll happen next year if I have to switch the little darlins to government schools, but I'll burn that bridge when I come to it!!
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    I would agree that it is a no-carry situation just because you would be on a school bus. Personally, I don't take chances in gray areas regarding gun-free zones. Just keep your eyes and ears open and do lots of head counts on the little ones!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quicksabre View Post
    Alternatively (and I have taken this route with my own kids) - drive yourself and your kid to the zoo in your own vehicle, armed to the teeth as usual. I don't trust school bus drivers anyway, and school buses don't even have seat belts.
    I like this plan. Stay safe and avoid legal gray areas.
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    Zoo trip"Safari" bring the 458 weatherby and tell em it's for the safety of the chilluns
    Ask if they can bring the big bus to haul all the trophys home
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    Zoo trip"Safari" bring the 458 weatherby and tell em it's for the safety of the chilluns
    Ask if they can bring the big bus to haul all the trophys home
    Thats too damn funny!

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    Thanks for all the replies. I guess I will be at the mercy of the BG's. Hope someone reminds them they are not suppose to carry without a permit, and for sure not on a school bus.

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    Is the zoo on government property or operated with government funds? Are there signs prohibiting the carry of firearms? The school bus is only one possible issue.

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