1st brief LEO encounter
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March 4th, 2010 04:19 PM
1st brief LEO encounter
Had to pull into a parking lot right off the road. Cars were stopped waiting for the light to change to cross an intersection which I did not have to cross. I did however have to kind of turn a corner. So I pulled into this very short parking lot and road it around about 50 feet to where I wanted to park. The LEO pulls in behind me and asks me what I was doing. Said I should have waited for the light like everyone else. I explained that I wasn't crossing the light or intersection so I thought it would be ok to pull in and ride the lot around to where I want to be.
He asked if I had any weapons on me (never in 30 years has an LEO ever asked me that) and I said yes. He asked what kind and I told him a M&P 40 Compact. He asked if I had a license, I replied yes. He asked to see it. Looked at it with one hand while his other rested on his holster, not the handle of his gun. He told me next time to wait for the light and be careful backing up since the road was right there.
March 4th, 2010 04:19 PM
March 4th, 2010 04:25 PM
Sounds like it when pretty smoothly...
My brother who is LEO asks about weapons a lot, but he throws a joke in the like "and weapons in your car? like guns, knifes, WMD's?"
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March 4th, 2010 05:50 PM
Good cop, I think it is good you posted about a good LEO encounter we often only hear about the bad ones.
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March 4th, 2010 06:05 PM
Seems to have went smooth
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March 4th, 2010 06:45 PM
My Mom recently passed away. Our lawyer moved into new digs. I took a shortcut and as I got closer to the office I lost focus as I thought about my Mom and failed to monitor my speed. The local constabulary introduced themselves to remind me. In Ohio, if you have a Concealed Carry Weapon permit, you are required to immediately announce to the officer that you have a permit and whether you are currently armed. It turned out that he is a CCW instructor as well. After checking that I have had no moving violations within the last six months, he returned my license and suggest I watch my speed more carefully. As I was returning my license to my wallet I told him why I had lost focus on my speed and we talked a little bit about losing parents. I'm glad I did not tell him any of this before he returned my license and told me I would not be cited.
March 4th, 2010 07:10 PM
No ticket, and he didn't empty your gun, disassemble it, and put it in your trunk (for your safety and his)...a fair stop.IMHO
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March 4th, 2010 07:11 PM
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March 4th, 2010 07:49 PM
Seems everything went good
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March 4th, 2010 08:12 PM
That's not a joke it's a fishing expediton. when you say "Yes" what did you just say yes to?
Originally posted by Kenny256
he throws a joke in the like "and weapons in your car? like guns, knifes, WMD's?"
March 4th, 2010 09:28 PM
Didn't even ask me where it was, I thought that was strange.
Originally Posted by retsupt99
March 4th, 2010 11:15 PM
It don't get no better than that(well I guess it could have been better if you hadn't got stopped in the first place), but that was a perfect encounter with LEO. I haven't been stopped yet, but when/if I ever do, I hope it goes as smooth as yours did.
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March 5th, 2010 02:45 PM
What you consider a 'fishing expedition' (your term) is also a way I use to break a little bit of the tension that goes along with that question when I have someone stopped. Alot of people (even some here probably) get butthurt and offended when asked by an officer if they have a weapon.
We are apparently supposed to automatically know that every Joe blow that we stop is a great guy, who would only legally carry a weapon. When I ask "Sir do you have any guns, knives, or grenade launchers in the vehicle?" it usually gets a smile, even though I just asked a serious question, because obviously, I don't think that granny has a grenade launcher in her car. (Although, you are right, some people do admit to some stupid stuff from time to time)
March 5th, 2010 05:27 PM
A simple "Do have any weapons in your vehicle tonight sir?" is how I've been asked and I generally hand over my permit W/out saying a word.
When I hear this type of question asked it's usually on COPS ( Yes, I know COPS is 99% BS but I still hear what I hear) and it's usually phrased :
"Do you have any weapons, guns, knives, bazookas, drugs , samuri swords or anything else I need to know about in the vehicle tonight?"
The proper response to such a question is always (IMO) "Officer , I do not consent to any searches. Am I free to go?"
March 5th, 2010 05:50 PM
Davidw - sounds like a "good" LEO experience all around, almost. Maybe I'm nitpicking, but it seems weird that (completely separate from anything gun related) he stopped you for moving around in a parking lot (a) and (b) told you that next time you need to do something other than what you were doing, aka moving around in a parking lot?
Color me a little confused. Perhaps, without the diagram of the corner, traffic, lot, location of cop at time he noticed you and location of you and cop at time he stopped you, etc . etc. etc. If it made sense to you, then I have no qualms.
But, it is nice to know that you can be a permit carrying gun owner in your car, get stopped, and not have that held against you.
Now, my question to the group is: I drove to the range today to practice shooting with some friends. I had a gun, unloaded, 3 magazines, unloaded, and two boxes of ammo all in the same bag. It is legal to have a gun with you in your car in Florida.
I have not yet applied for my CCW permit in Florida. If I'd have been stopped by the police for any reason, would I have been in jeopardy for answering the "do you have a weapon" question with a "yes" that was not qualified with the presence of a permit?
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