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Do you trust OTHER people W/ guns?

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Do you trust other people W/ guns?

Frequently I see threads here about gun shops that restrict carry or gun shows or the NRA convention. It reminds me of a Pastor at a church I used to attend that used to ask “Do you hate sin?” and everyone would raise their hand then he’d ask “Do you hate your sin?’ not quite as enthusiast a response.

Anyway I thought I’d throw this out; In general do you trust other people, people that you don’t know or people that do things that, while legal, you disagree with , with a gun?

How would you feel if the entire country did away W/ permits and just allowed Vermont carry? Would you feel more or less safe?
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Thats a tuff one to answer. WOW, There are allot of poeple I know that should never touch an weapon, let alone carry one. then on the other hand, there are allot of poeple I know that I would trust,That dont carry. But to answer your main question, I think I would be more scared if every single person carried I commend you on that Topic ,hope we get to read some Interesting replies
 
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I don't think that's quite the right question. The issue is whether you trust other people enough. Every time you cross a crosswalk, you trust that the guy in the car won't run you down. Likewise when you're on the interstate, anybody driving near you is a very serious threat. Really, only their good nature and instinct for self preservation keeps you safe.

My willingness to drive and live in society means that I implicitly trust people to some degree. I'd be a hypocrite if I trusted them not to run me over, but thought they'd shoot me if they were armed.

That said, there are plenty of individuals who I don't trust with guns, cars, or anything else. At risk of starting a flame war, I think that there are some people who shouldn't be armed. Whether laws can make that happen is another question.
 
#4 ·
I don't trust other people period.........other people with guns!? Take anything good and throw a little humanity at it.....you'll see what I'm saying. I've come to my own terms with things as they are.
 
#55 ·
Humanity In/Humanity Out: Simple IO Formula



Well said. My trust is earned, and it ages well unless you blow it up. :scruntiny:
 
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There are millions of people who have no business having kids, but that doesnt stop them.

And IMO that/they are more dangerous than guns.

If everyone was allowed to carry guns, not many 'different' people would carry than do now, would they? Or would the background check be a big factor?

Because except for a few states, most people that want to carry, do.
 
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I trust people that own firearms....BUT I DON'T TRUST PEOPLES GUN HANDLING!
 
#8 ·
Do I think all free men and women should have the right to keep and bare arms...yes. Do I think everyone is responsible enough to carry a firearm daily..no.

I have a cousin who is twenty something. He recently purchased a Springfield XD .40. He has the nasty habit of leaving his firearm unsecured, he often leaves it unattended on the seat of his work truck. His work truck is often out of his view.

He also has a nasty habit of sweeping people with his loaded firearm...I have told him several times that he is all kinds of wrong for pointing a loaded gun at people. I do not think he realizes the situation he is putting himself and others in.

I think he suffers from that "I'm a man therefore I know everything about guns" disease.

I believe everyone should have a means to defend themselves, but I think with ownership of a weapon comes a responsibility to have proper training and respect for your defensive tool's capabilities.
 
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Originally posted by dnowell I don't think that's quite the right question
It's a difficult question to properly articulate and I welcome any attempte to help flesh it out and properly frame it.

Personally, I don't think I trust other people W/ guns , I'm not sure I'd be comfortable knowing everyone around my was packing at a gunshow because i'd be waiting for that one idiot to whip it out .
 
#10 ·
I don't trust others right off the bat.... I have seen too many un-safe things to trust unknowingly. I tend to watch others very closely until they prove to me they are safe.
 
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IMO it takes responsibility and a true desire to protect your self responsibly to get/obtain/apply for a permit. Much more so than just buying the gun. That right there is the first step in a little extra trust
 
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IMO it takes responsibility and a true desire to protect your self responsibly to get/obtain/apply for a permit. Much more so than just buying the gun. That right there is the first step in a little extra trust
Not neccesarily true. Some state do not require any proof of training or responibilty of any kind. Have the money, get the gun. Is this a good thing? In constitutional theory Yes. In the real world NO!
 
#12 ·
I am careful around people with tools.....hammers..... saws......icepicks.......knives........vehicles.......jackhammers........ohh and GUNS.

I am not a HYPOCRITE
 
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What if everyone in walmart had a concealed carry permit and was exercising their second amendment right......a right is a right......now would i trust that dea agent that was the "only one qualified enough to handle a firearm".....maybe before his negligence...not now, this is the same problem some cops have with OCers and CCers that they dont want or trust anyone around them to have a gun.....FREEDOM IS A GREAT THING...I trust
 
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Last week I walked into a Walmart behind a man who was obviously CC, printing badly, I thought about tapping him on the shoulder, but didn't. I never gave a thought as to whether or not I should trust him. Besides that, there might have been several others in the store that I was not aware of. My life to too short to worry about such things.
 
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I commend other people for exercising their rights. Do I trust them? No. Trust is earned, not deserved.
 
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^^^^YEP^^^^^^^^^^

As long as they are NOT, certifiably insane;
A felon, and are of age, and are legally able to,,


Nuff said!!!!

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Before I got my CHL and started carrying everywhere it is legal, I did not trust people with guns.

They had a power I did not posses, the power to direct force at their will.

I now have that force legally and carry it with me.

Do folks trust me? I don't care, because I know myself and my ability.

I have become more trusting of folks with guns because I have the power to project force as efficiently as possible if needed.
 
#21 ·
I think a better question might be "Do you trust other people's safe gun handling skills?"
 
#22 ·
I think Dixietwister said it best, because that is what many of you sound like. It's ok for me, but not someone I don't know.
It is not my place to decide who can or cannot carry. That has already been determined by my state. I tend to have more faith in people than some of you exhibit. JMHO
 
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Do you trust other people W/ guns?

Frequently I see threads here about gun shops that restrict carry or gun shows or the NRA convention. It reminds me of a Pastor at a church I used to attend that used to ask “Do you hate sin?” and everyone would raise their hand then he’d ask “Do you hate your sin?’ not quite as enthusiast a response.
Only gun shop I know of is in a mall that restricts
gun shows and conventions are restricted where i live because of seating capacity.

Anyway I thought I’d throw this out; In general do you trust other people, people that you don’t know or people that do things that, while legal, you disagree with , with a gun?

How would you feel if the entire country did away W/ permits and just allowed Vermont carry? Would you feel more or less safe?
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In general do I trust other people who carry YES. They carry because they are law abiding people. LOE's can lie to me but I can not lie to them, I disagree with that but still trust LEO's with a gun.
Vermont question: I will have to say less. Knowledge is learned and I did not mind Michigan's proses to get a permit. I feel it helps me to stay a law abiding person. And I do have more trust of others because they permitted the same way I did.
HOWEVER Vermont never took the right away, My state did and I believe that does make a difference. Think about it!
Good question Treo
 
#24 ·
Every day I trust all the other drivers to do the right thing at the right time. I know many don't, and I have been hit by a drunk driver as well. Still I drive.

I do not favor VT style; except in theory. In theory it is great. HOWEVER,

In reality I like the idea of a background check for cc and some sort of Texas style classroom and test. I wish there were a reasonable way to test emotional maturity as well.

I would not feel comfortable knowing that everyone and anyone might be carrying concealed.

OTOH, I know that is happening now, illegally. The police find it on traffic stops all the time. Felon in possession. Teen in possession. That will continue to happen no matter what we do.

This one is so multi-faceted that all we can do is make our compromises. There will be no perfect answer, ever.
 
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I do not favor VT style; except in theory. In theory it is great. HOWEVER,

In reality I like the idea of a background check for cc and some sort of Texas style classroom and test. I wish there were a reasonable way to test emotional maturity as well.

I would not feel comfortable knowing that everyone and anyone might be carrying concealed.

OTOH, I know that is happening now, illegally. The police find it on traffic stops all the time. Felon in possession. Teen in possession. That will continue to happen no matter what we do.

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If someone wants to carry now, they do (in most states)...unless they are felons or have mental illness restrictions.

So I do not see alot more'people carrying concealed if we went like VT.

And you point it out yourself....if they really want to do so, they'll break the law to do it anyway. No way of stopping that.
 
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I don't trust other people period.........other people with guns!? Take anything good and throw a little humanity at it.....you'll see what I'm saying. I've come to my own terms with things as they are.

Ditto... Well said RamRod..
 
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