My Companies annual employee meeting.

This is a discussion on My Companies annual employee meeting. within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by StevePVB Too bad you or someone else didn't use the opportunity to ask the "safety manager" about being "safe". Only 30 minutes ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevePVB View Post
    Too bad you or someone else didn't use the opportunity to ask the "safety manager" about being "safe". Only 30 minutes before you were told of the threat. Being cautious and aware may not be enough it the nutjob decides to actually carry out his threat.
    Exactly. I believe it would have been a good time to ask her what exactly is the purpose of the 'no gun' policy? Does she really think that a person, intent on doing harm to others or retaliating against the company, is going to give a crap about such policies? The only thing such policies accomplish is to make the work place a 'soft target', just like Ft. Hood was and 'still is'. They deny a person (an employee) to protect themself.

    Policy states that 'the smaller pocket knives are a tool unless the person with the knife has intent to cause harm'. Small knives can kill a person just as dead as a large knive, or a hammer, or a screwdriver, etc.

    Even in states that allow the use of bulletproof vests specify that they are legal unless they are used in the commision of a crime. In other words, it's a tool to be used for one's protection unless used to do harm or to commit a crime. Just as well, a firearm is a 'tool' to protect oneself from harm by others unless it is used to commit a crime.

    Bottom line is- their current policy does nothing to protect the employee, it only protects the 'Bad Guy'.

    That's my 2 cents.


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    if the shtf at my work. i plan on hiding behind the no guns sign. i think i will be safe there.

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    THere was a case here in the Houston area a couple of years ago where a CHL holder was robbed in his company car of ALLOT of computer equipment. The company fired him and tried to hold him accountable for the value of the lost merchandise. He sued them on the grounds that he has every ability to defend himself and the property in his care but was refused the accessibility to this protection by not being allowed to carry on the job. He won the suit, got his job back and compensation for the lost time at work and then put in his two weeks notice. If I am not mistaken, I think I heard later he was running a security company or something like that. Anyway, the point is things are slowly but surely changing to our benefit.
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    Where I work there is no known policy of Firearms. I decided not to rock the boat by not talking about it. I carry everyday and only one person knows (this person carries also) Neither one of us speak of it and we rarely even talk about our guns at work unless we are alone. We both agreed to keep it hush hush. Keep your mouth shut and your firearm of choice well hidden and you should be fine. Better to ask for forgivness than permission. IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastercapt View Post
    1st things 1st: conceal the gun. Do not even tell co-workers you "know" that you are carrying. You are violating a company rule, and should not advertise it. If you use it to save your life, you can get another job.
    +1!

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    I would stand up and request that the company safety officer be present on the job site at all times so when the guy shows up to retaliate you can use that person as a human shield.......:)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sticks View Post
    My company had it's annual meeting yesterday, and we went over the usual stuff.

    Here is the oddly humorous yet disturbing/annoying part.

    At 7:30 am, we were informed that there was an incident at one of our job sites where a driver, who was irritated with the slow traffic on the highway and a closed exit ramp, opted to drive by the flagger through the coned off section to use the closed exit ramp.

    Evidently the driver narrowly missed the flagger and got a traffic/criminal ticket along the lines of reckless endangerment.

    We were informed that this driver is extremely upset about the whole incident and has made threats of retaliation against the company, ergo we were told to be cautious and extremely aware of anybody odd at this particular job site.

    At 8:00 our safety manager gets up to make her speech about safety and workplace violence and our "No Weapons" policy. As usual, no guns, no knives (caveat - the smaller pocket knives are a tool unless the person with the knife has intent to cause harm ).
    So, here we sit. Informed that there is some random guy who blames us for his stupidity, has made threats against us, and followed up with the policy that we are not allowed to have any weapons of any kind.

    I am a mechanic. I carry nothing but tools, some of which are specialty tools that are intended for very specific uses (19mm fuel line socket, form bent wrench for 1 air compressor mounting bolt, sidearm ), and Personal Protective Equipment - PPE (gloves, steel toe boots, safety glasses, brain bucket, sidearm...).

    After that meeting, more than ever I have my personal justification for carrying at work and risking loss of my employment for violating company policy vs. my ability to defend myself while at work.

    More often than not, I am working alone in an isolated area, and at this particular job site, at night. Let me think...Lower risk of being terminated...Ability to defend my self against threats against me...Hmmmm
    Sticks:

    You should have gotten up and asked the Safety Mgr for her suggestions on how you should equip yourself to be safe should the mad driver attack you.

    She should at least authorize armed guards on the various work sites.

    Capt. Art

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