A message from my University

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    A message from my University

    I am currently an Ohio State University student, and just got an email stating that not one, but two girls have been sexually assaulted on campus in the past week. One of these was at 8:45 PM in a high traffic area of campus. I am wondering if I should send an email to the woman who sent out this message asking her and the other staff members to give some serious thought to allowing students to carry on campus.

    In the past 3-4 months, I have had 2 friends robbed at Gun/Knifepoint and heard 2 seperate incidents of shots fired less than a mile from campus. I just cannot fathom what kind of person wouldn't allow students to arm themselves in these circumstances.

    For those interest here is the message.

    Dear students,

    Your safety and wellness are my highest priority. In the past few days, two Ohio State women students have reported that they were victims of sexual assault, in unrelated incidents. These crimes are terrible violations of the young women who were attacked, and they are reminders that no place is completely exempt from danger, even our own familiar buildings and grounds. I am writing to raise your awareness of the situation and inform you about the resources available to help.

    Most sexual assaults involve people who are known to each other. A person who persists without having consent is committing a very serious crime. Either person being intoxicated is not an excuse for unwanted sex, and may, in fact, make the aggressor more liable, as sexual contact with a person who is unable to give informed consent is illegal and may be prosecuted as rape.

    The most important thing you can do to protect yourself is to stay alert and trust your instincts. If you must be out alone after dark, please use the Student Escort Service, which can be reached at *********. Why not program that into your cell phone now? I think everyone understands that too much alcohol can affect your ability to make good decisions. Listening to music through ear buds or talking on a cell phone while walking can also prevent you from hearing or seeing danger signs.

    If you are the victim of sexual assault, whether by someone you know or a stranger, I urge you very strongly to report it as soon as possible. This is important for your own health and recovery and also will improve the chances that the perpetrator can be caught and prosecuted. You can report it wherever you feel most comfortable. The OSU Police Division, our residence hall staff, Counseling and Consultation Service, the Student Wellness Center, Student Health Services, Student Judicial Affairs, and other Student Life offices are all able to help you. The Sexual Violence Education and Support unit in the Student Wellness Center has trained advocates and a number of support services for survivors of sexual assault.

    The OSU Police issue Crime Alerts when there has been a crime reported that indicates that there may be ongoing danger to the university community. To receive these alerts by e-mail, you must sign up here.

    Your safety is my highest concern, and I and the entire staff of the Office of Student Life are here to help. Please feel free to contact us at any time. I, unfortunately, must be away from campus a great deal of the time in the next few weeks, but Dr. Martha Garland is backing me up and filling in as acting vice president for student life. You can reach her through my office.

    Please take care of yourselves and look out for each other.


    Vice President for Student Life

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    Unless you include a petition I wouldn't bother. Definitely wouldn't advise drawing attention to yourself either.

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    If you are so worried then let the students protect themselves with PROPER armament. They're jackasses.
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    wow a little harsh^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndAmend View Post
    wow a little harsh^^
    Not harsh enough, it is our safety on the line, not hers. She spouts about how we should all "watch out for each other". She has a PHD and I am sure drives home to her nice house in the suburbs while it is still light out. I and my fellow students have to walk at all times of the night through an area with a high crime rate. Maybe she doesn't think she needs any form of protection, but ask those girls what they whether a gun would have helped them.

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    oh i misread the post. i thought thegear was talking to you.

    ps GO BLUE

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    Razor is probably right; change like that requires numbers. You should search for a pro-carry organization in your state that advocates campus carry and ask what you can do to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndAmend View Post
    oh i misread the post. i thought thegear was talking to you.

    ps GO BLUE
    Eh, I have to take a shower now.

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    If I were a college student and old enough to obtain a CCW permit I would do so. I would also carry on campus (concealed of course). If I was attacked I would use deadly force. Better to be tried by 12 than be carried by six. IMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by IWLAFART View Post
    If I were a college student and old enough to obtain a CCW permit I would do so. I would also carry on campus (concealed of course). If I was attacked I would use deadly force. Better to be tried by 12 than be carried by six. IMHO
    The chances of someone seeing me and reporting me is just too high.

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    You can pretty well bet that what is reported is only the tip of the iceburg. I work at a university and know that a lot more goes on than is ever reported. I consider a university dorm to be one of the more dangerous places around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cinsc View Post
    Razor is probably right; change like that requires numbers. You should search for a pro-carry organization in your state that advocates campus carry and ask what you can do to help.
    Agree with this post, and will add

    In her message she said "trust your instincts."

    I know exactly what my instincts tell me. You probably do as well.

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    Ah, my expertise comes into play! You should check out Students for Concealed Carry on Campus. Here's a list of campus directors in your state.

    Students for Concealed Carry on Campus - ConcealedCampus.com

    I used to be the state director for Oklahoma, but am no longer in that position since I'm out of college now. This is a great group as far as I'm concerned, and I think you'd do well to check them out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IWLAFART View Post
    If I were a college student and old enough to obtain a CCW permit I would do so. I would also carry on campus (concealed of course). If I was attacked I would use deadly force. Better to be tried by 12 than be carried by six. IMHO
    We don't condone breaking the law,If you choose to break the law there are consequences,you can be expelled and have criminal charges,possibly a felony that will prevent you from ever legally owning a handgun
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    If its illegal you shouldn't carry on campus.

    If you do anyway that is your choice to break the law. If the slim chance you would ever need it arrived and you saved your life and those around you then when the "hero" image fades in a few days you would be promptly crucified by the jury the court "unbiasedly" selects.

    You would lose your permit, your freedom, and a LOT of money basically to prove you didn't murder the bad guy.
    There is something about firing 4,200 thirty millimeter rounds/min that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

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