This is a discussion on OK should I have done this. within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by roalho If you're really that unhappy with their service, you could try doing what we did. Cancel it, and get an antenna. ...
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Seems like an inappropriate action. You seem to have gone in with an existing beef with the cable company. Were you hoping to get a better deal on cable with a less than sutble notification that there might be a firearm present in the situation?
I'm with everyone else; No....Do not do this.
I'd show a library card or utility bill as proof of ID/address before I would real world display _any_ state issued carry license/permit.
Just because you can/it's lawful doesn't mean you should/it's right.
Use your best judgment...Your very best.
I guess I had not considered the itemidation aspect. I was really just trying to point out that the requirement to show ID to pay a bill in person, when id is not needed to pay by mail seems silly to me.
I asked about the increase in cost as an after thought after the bill was payed so I wasn't thinking about it when I showed her the ID but I do see where she might have still had that in the back of her mind.
Had she asked a supervisor to step over and told him I was threating her with the ID I doubt it would have been an issue unless she thought I could give her a nasty paper cut.
Still I guess I made a big mistake.
I don't really think her knowing I had a CPL is an issue, unless a disgruntled customer walked in shooting while I was still there. OF course since its a no gun zone we all know that couldn't happen.
And when you have other options to show for ID (which most people would assume), it could be miscontrued as a threat to show a pistol license. It tells this person...'Hi. I have a gun.' What they make of that is anybody's guess but it doesnt make any of us look good.
Fortune favors the bold.
Freedom doesn't mean safe, it means free.
The thing about "defense" is that it has practically nothing to do with guns. (As passed on by CCW9MM)
Next time you have a complaint/issue/problem/annoyance with some other person or as in this case entity & policy, do not think to include and interject your gun/gun rights into the equation.
As by US law inmost every state an act of assault is defined as being a person being placed in to a state of fear by another. Intimidation is along the same lines and is also an arrestable crime.
These days wackos are walking around everywhere harboring issues and ill will with people and organizations as well as policys over all manner of item.
You walking in and acting exactly as you describe as also included with your own stated thought process and reasoning would not be viewed well by all (dare I say most) LEOs.
Imagine if this woman had been an anti-gun person or one who is gun neutral BUT is the nervous type or had experienced unbeknown to you some kind of crazy man with a gun situation in her life as prior (at work...per a customer!)...And she excused herself from you for a moment, to call the cops!
Now what you got?
A whole heap of annoyance if not trouble.
For what? For why? Nothing and no good reason.
Which is exactly what a responding LEO would ask of you.
Just as you have right to act how ever you might wish and allowance to think what ever you might think.
Others have same and equal right and allowance too.
Next time you have an issue with a policy write a letter or e-mail to the entity.
And always as it goes with carry and licensing/permission please do use your very best judgment.
For all you know after you walked out that woman may have talked about you and the interaction negatively to her coworkers, supervisor and then gone home to relate same to her family & friends.
Creepy/crazy/cocky/kooky man with a state issue gun permit/license...And possibly OMG eek!, a gun on his person.
You represent not just yourself and your own views, but that of US _all_ including me and everyone else among this forum and off it...Who has a gun and a license/permit and/or who might wish to secure same and exercise similar rights as into the future.
Always think to use your very best judgment.
"Perception is everything."- An old timey truism
This kind of thing makes my eyeballs explode, and I must admit that if my check was refused in person but accepted by mail, there would be a loud conversation with the local manager in the lobby.
Having been a business owner for over 30 years, I cannot understand why they make paying for services rendered so difficult. And it seems to be more prevalent in the large companies like cable providers. I could understand making it difficult for non payers, buy why antagonize good customers?
I'll stop myself from typing the rest of my rant. It would go on for a long time.
ps: I would not have shown any id other than my check
"Should I have done this?"
It's not something I would do, but does it violate a law? No. What's the worst thing that could happen? Police are called and find out you weren't carrying in the criminal-protection-zone. Big deal.
What I would have done is arranged payment by EFT straight from my bank account to eliminate the entire concept of hassle here. If I didn't like something about cable I would switch to a satellite provider. (I have actually done both.)
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?" Patrick Henry (ironically a slave owner), 1775 Mar 23.
When you feel yourself getting into one of those moods, it's time to take your meds. You should not run around trying to disturb/intimidate others(as they may perceive it).
Speak softly, and carry a big stick.
Another plan probably would have been better, but this far down into the thread...you already have guessed that...
I pay all my bills on line and it avoids stamps, and other hassles. From the moment a bill is opened...two minutes later, it's paid.
"That I cannot do."
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No! Thats your business not any stranger..
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