This is a discussion on Hornady Critical Defense 115gr FTX 9mm within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; If you go to KTOG forum you will find many comments, particularly on the 380 calibre where FTF was clearly a problem....
If you go to KTOG forum you will find many comments, particularly on the 380 calibre where FTF was clearly a problem.
That was an inteligent response.
Seeing as the bikers I know personally all have heavy military, or mma/combat shooting sports backgrounds, good luck with that...
However, I was thinking something more along the point of what happens if in a stop and rob incident at 7/11 goes bad, you need to shoot someone and you don't have a clear angle on them because they are partially obscured by an intermediate barrier of wood or metal...like the corner of the coffee island or the checkout counter.
You can try for a shot to an unobstructed area...or you can realize that if the person's right hand with a gun is peaking out from the cover, he's probably behind it, and having a Ranger Talon/Gold Dot/XTP in the gun will make short work of the consealment, then perform effectively on the bad guy.
But thinking of that would require you to not be taken in by Hornady's slick marketing.
Pardon me for assuming you could make an inteligent decission as to your ammunition unassisted by companies who want to sell you something.
There is a reason they have an "ignore" feature.
It works wonders for the forum. You can "pre-select" people that have a previous history of not being inteligent and by "pre-selecting" them and adding them to your "ignore" feature you will not waste time seeing their drivel.
I'm just saying ya' know.
Wow, so sorry if you get your sensitive feelings hurt when people post a comment you don't agree with. This isn't a MENSA message board, nor am I running for office; so I couldn't care less whether you think that was a stupid comment or not. Further if you're going to call people out for being dumb you may want to learn to spell the word intelligent and decision.
M&P 9 and 9c
Remington 810 20 gauge
I like the Crit. Def. in both my PM9 and my LCP, function flawlessly.
"I would rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy!" - Dorothy Parker
I'd like to bring this up again. I carry Hornady Critical Defense ammunition not because of any marketing but because I was led to believe that it was excellent defense ammunition from people that I trust. As far as them being able to penetrate cover, I gotta say that if I don't have a clear shot, I'm not likely to take it. I've seen real world tests of how that can significantly alter a bullet's trajectory. I don't ever want to get caught in a situation where I put a bullet in something I didn't intend to.
But I'm curious as to why, particularly you MitchellCT, feel this is a poorly performing round? Links or statistics would be great.
An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.
"Be justified. Blood may be easily wiped from the sword.
It cannot, however, be put back from where it came." --Quicksabre
1. I need to re-evaluate whether I should actually be shooting.
2. If I can shoot through my cover, so can he and I need to find better cover quick, fast and in a hurry.
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I use it in my CW9, because it shoots consistently, no failures. I had a ftfeed with a speer gold dot, so now I use them in my Glocks, and Hornady C.D. in my CW9.