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April 6th, 2010 06:34 PM
Sorry if this is a repeat
Greetings to all! I currently carry a Glock 23 and was wondering, what is the best/legal round to use? Right now I have Hydroshock and wonder if that is too much power. Is there any other .40 round that I should carry? I am open to suggestions.
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April 6th, 2010 07:25 PM
If the HydraShoks are 100% reliable in your Glock, and shoot with what you consider acceptible accuracy, and you can control them in rapid fire, they'll do fine.
Are they the best round out there? Well, they're 20 year old technology and have been surpassed by newer designs...
Barnes all-copper bullets (140 & 155gr) loaded by: Cor-Bon (DPX40140)
Winchester Ranger 180gr JHP (RA40T)
Winchester Ranger 165gr JHP (RA40TA)
Winchester Partition Gold 165gr JHP (RA401P)
Winchester Bonded 180gr JHP (Q4355)
Speer Gold Dot 155gr JHP (53961)
Speer Gold Dot 180gr JHP (53962)
Federal Tactical 165gr JHP (LE40T3)
Federal Tactical 180gr JHP (LE40T1)
Federal HST 180gr JHP (P40HST1)
Remington Golden Saber 180 gr JHP (GS40SWB)
From: Best Choices for Self Defense Ammo
So, in short, if they work in your pistol, the HydraShoks probably do fine; if you want to stoke your Glock with the latest and greatest, try some of the above mentioned loads...just remember to run a few mags through your pistol to see if it (and you) like them before deciding they're good enough to rely on.
And no, it is absolutely not too powerful.
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April 6th, 2010 08:06 PM
No such thing as "too much power" when considering a self defense round. All, or most, production ammunition is tested and is good to go in most any case. Hand/home loaded ammunition can be different in that it may not be consistent and could malfunction.
Originally Posted by MaineGlock
If you are concerned with "legal" issues with name brand hollow point ammo, there should be none. Law Enforcement agencies have used Federal HydraShok for years and is considered a good safe choice.
As to HydraShoks as a good choice, I guess they are still considered a good round, but they are old technology now. The newer hollow points have been shown to greatly out perform the Hydrashoks in nearly every aspect of penetration and expansion.
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April 6th, 2010 08:26 PM
Hydra-Shoks are still fine performers on the street, and have been refined over the years. Avoid the mid-velocity 165-grain .40 Hydra-shoks, unless you are SURE they have enough power to reliably cycle your pistol.
FWIW, I use 180-grain Gold Dots, due to better local availability of the ammo, packed in the less expensive-per-round 50-round boxes. My cash-strapped employer, a PD, requires us to buy our own ammo and weapons, within guidelines. (.40 is the mandated primary duty round.) Most of my co-workers seem to be making the same choice. I could use Hydra-Shoks without losing any sleep, and used .45 Hydra-Shoks from the late 1980's to 2002 in duty and carry pistols.
I am not sure what the OP meant by "too much power." There is much to be said for using what police use, in justifiable self-defense, and more USA police use .40 than anything else. Hydra-Shok has a long track record with police.
April 6th, 2010 08:33 PM
You can't get too much power for SD. If it shoot well in your weapon, you can hit what you are aiming at, use it!
April 7th, 2010 08:26 AM
Carry what you and your gun shoot best and what's 100% reliable in your weapon. Any of the "top name" JHPs out there are good. Winchester, Hornady, Speer, Corbon, Buffalo Bore, and others.
I carry both 9mm and .40 S&W and use Corbon DPX as my first choice and Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel as my second.
April 7th, 2010 10:19 AM
Originally Posted by Keltyke
Absolutely - on both counts!
My preference in .40 S&W has been 155 gr. Hydra-Shok and 180 gr PDX-1, but I just picked up several hundred rounds of Federal 155 gr LE HST for $40/100 and am going to give them a try.
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