April 8th, 2010 09:25 PM
Winchester Supreme Elite 124g +p 9mm
Does anyone have any experience with this ammo? I have a glock 19, I figure it will run just fine in my gun but is it a decent round to use for self defense?
April 8th, 2010 09:35 PM
It'll work fine.
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April 8th, 2010 09:48 PM
It'll work very good in a Glock since Glocks are +p rated for LEO, I prefer the Cor Bon 125 gr +p over the Winchester and Gold Dot +p ammo cuz its more accurate.
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April 8th, 2010 10:16 PM
Winchester doesn't publish the @muzzle performance figures fully, so it is a bit difficult to compare to a half dozen other top cartridges.
Originally Posted by SpencerB
The Winchester S9MMPDB Supreme Elite Bonded PDX1, in 9mm JHP 124gr +P has the following specs:
Though this post on GunForAll.com suggests it's 1200 fps and 396 ft-lbs from the muzzle: click. And MidwayUSA reports the same thing: click.
Originally Posted by Winchester's web pages
The FBI is apparently using this as their duty load.
Many people are speaking the words "Winchester PDX1" in the same breath as "Speer GD."
I would certainly give it a look. As compared to the DoubleTap JHP Bonded Defense (Speer GD) 9mm JHP 124gr +P cartridge that I use, it's got ~100 ft-lbs and a couple hundred FPS poorer performance. How that translates into a target body? Don't know.
My own personal minimums for a 9mm JHP defensive round are: > 1200 fps, > 400 ft-lbs.
Before considering for my own carry in a 3-4" bbl primary pistol, I'd want to perform some basic comparison tests, in water jugs, ballistic jell and perhaps a few country hams. It would have to outperform the DoubleTap JHP 9mm 124gr +P, and outperform the Federal Tactical Hydra-Shok 9mm JHP 124gr +P+. But that's just me.
But, based on the essential specs, the design of the bullet, the FBI's blessing, it would seem to be a better choice than most others out there. I wouldn't want to get struck by it.
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