New Jersey and Hollow Points

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    New Jersey and Hollow Points

    Hello,

    I travel from VA to NH occasionally to see the in-laws. I was told that it is illegal for a non-LEO to be in possession of Hollow Points in NJ. Since I drive through there, I was wondering what defensive ammo would be availble.

    I started looking at the Glaser Power Ball and the new Hornady type that is similar. My carry caliber is typically a .45 ACP and I typically carry Federal HST 230 gr JHPs.

    I was told I could get in a bunch of trouble if caught with the Federals in my car. I don't plan on speeding, but I would be the guy who gets rear-ended and my trunk pops open and the JHPs just pop out of the range bag and the cop would see them...

    Any suggestions for defensive ammo when travelling through NJ?

    Later, Lumpy.

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    I believe that's covered under FOPA. As long as you don't spend too much time in Jersey, you should be fine.

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    Does the NJ law prohibit simple possession of HP ammo, or just having it in the gun?
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    Just having it in the gun...In fact, the gun should be locked separate from the ammo...buried in the back of your car. And I wouldn't guarantee FOPA to protect you roadside...drive under the speed limit or avoid NJ altogether...

    Instead of 95....take 81 through PA where your permit is good....then all you have to contend with is NY..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGguy229 View Post
    Just having it in the gun...In fact, the gun should be locked separate from the ammo...buried in the back of your car. And I wouldn't guarantee FOPA to protect you roadside...drive under the speed limit or avoid NJ altogether...

    Instead of 95....take 81 through PA where your permit is good....then all you have to contend with is NY..
    Good advice. Not that NY is any better, but it is best to only have to negotiate one commie state...

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaonttwo View Post
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    +1...You mentioned Hornady, I don't believe they make Critical Defense (which is legal in NJ) for .45's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peckman28 View Post
    Good advice. Not that NY is any better, but it is best to only have to negotiate one commie state...
    Don't forget, you have to go through my commie state and Kennedy land to get to NH and Connecticut does not have reciprocity either.
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    Well,

    I googled it and found

    New Jersey State Police - Transportation and Use of Hollow Point Ammunition by Sportsmen

    which still doesn't answer some of my questions.

    When traveling up in commie land I don't even leave the house while carrying since in about 10 minutes I am going across the Wilson bridge into anti-CCW (at least at this point) Maryland. I am going up to the NH State IDPA shoot in July and my CDP pistol really likes the Montana Gold 185 gr JHP load but I didn't want to take 400 of these or the Federal HST LE 230 gr carry ammo I normally carry. All mags are in seperate pouches than the ammo and the pistols are in seperate pouches as well, and as I found out going up to Mass for the S&W Indoor IDPA Nationals you better use your cable lock or have a lock box for storage.

    If I get tired and stop in a hotel in NJ and end up shooting a bad guy who just broke in my hotel room with an ax after chopping up the door to gain entry with my 230 gr HSTs, am I going to get in trouble for using Hollow Points. It isn't my property since I am not a resident...more legal issues

    I will try and find an ammo for self defense that is non-hollow point according to NJ law. Also, I probably will just take 230 gr ball, but according to what I saw, it should be legal to take JHPs as long as they are stored properly. Any NJ cops out there? or any NJ prosecuters?

    Thanks for the comments. Later, Lumpy.
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    Hollow points are legal in NJ and may be used for target just not for defense. When transporting they need to be separate and secure from the weapon and not accessible by the driver.

    ALSO it was strongly suggested to me (as a citizen if this oppressive state) not keep them in a magazine while being transported.

    For defensive I use PowrBall for the .45 ACP or Hornady Critical Defense for my 9mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Z Squad View Post
    Don't forget, you have to go through my commie state and Kennedy land to get to NH and Connecticut does not have reciprocity either.
    True, but at least CT will grant you "safe passage" in accordance with Federal laws. Carry it in the locked trunk, unloaded and apart from ammo, and you may traverse the state without fear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Z Squad View Post
    Don't forget, you have to go through my commie state and Kennedy land to get to NH and Connecticut does not have reciprocity either.
    True, but at least CT will grant you "safe passage" in accordance with Federal laws. Carry it in the locked trunk, unloaded and apart from ammo, and you may traverse the state without fear.
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    Thanks,

    That at least gives me some ideas. My local range has the .45 ACP Powerball for sale, albeit at $39.95 plust tax, but for the trip, it may be worth it.

    Also, another good thing that came out is I can take HP loads to use for target or IDPA match shooting. It will be stored seperately. Heck, I'll probably put cable locks on the guns in a pistol lock box, lock the lock box in a foot locker, and then lock that in the trunk. I'll probably die of old age if I need to get to it but at least I won't be in jail for not obeying the laws. It was much eaiser when I lived in Colorado and travelled to Wyoming, Montana, New Mexico and Utah.

    Oh well, Thanks, Later, Lumpy.

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    Where does it state HP ammo can't be used for defense in the home or at your business ? HP ammo can also be used for hunting in NJ as in HP slugs for deer and rifle ammo for woodchuck, etc.

    You can buy it, you can own it, you can take it to the range and shoot it and a resident can possess it on his/her property / land and in their home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfl1972 View Post
    +1...You mentioned Hornady, I don't believe they make Critical Defense (which is legal in NJ) for .45's.
    I am 99.999% sure I saw a vendor with Hornady CD in 45acp at the last gunshow I went to. And he was only asking $21/box which is a deal.
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