Is the 185+p Hydra-Shok (45 cal) too Hot?

Is the 185+p Hydra-Shok (45 cal) too Hot?

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    Is the 185+p Hydra-Shok (45 cal) too Hot?

    I shoot an HK45C handgun with a barrel lenght of 3.9 inches and wanted to know if I would have to add a Wolfer Spring to this gun to handle this ammo?
    This ammo would be used for self-defense & home protection!

    Thank-You for your time and opinions


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    Never a bad idea to put Wolff springs in a pistol shooting hot loads. They are simply the best there is.

    I have Wolff springs in most of my guns including my Colt Officers and Para P-12.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bark'n View Post
    Never a bad idea to put Wolff springs in a pistol shooting hot loads. They are simply the best there is.

    I have Wolff springs in most of my guns including my Colt Officers and Para P-12.
    Amen to Semper Fi!

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    Do you know if your gun is rated for +P ammo?

    Try emailing H&K and ask?

    I enquired about +P .45 ammo, and was told that most modern guns are rated to handle it, but should limit it to a couple mags per range trip.
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    Spring change

    You should be fine as is, the HK45c is a tough well built pistol, hense the premium price. You should test fire at the range but would foresee no issues

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    Should be fine, but you might want to upgrade to HST or a similar offering from another manufacturer. Hydrashok has a tendency to plug up and behave like a fmj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texag View Post
    Should be fine, but you might want to upgrade to HST or a similar offering from another manufacturer. Hydrashok has a tendency to plug up and behave like a fmj.
    Thank-You ,Texag! I think I will upgrade to HST ammo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-O-Matic View Post
    I shoot an HK45C handgun with a barrel lenght of 3.9 inches and wanted to know if I would have to add a Wolfer Spring to this gun to handle this ammo?
    This ammo would be used for self-defense & home protection!

    Thank-You for your time and opinions


    heavier recoil springs are not necessary in HK's when shooting +p, unless you plan to shoot a ton of it. (and hardly anyone does)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat-O-Matic View Post
    Thank-You ,Texag! I think I will upgrade to HST ammo!

    HST's are the best JHP's on the market right now. they can be hard to find though.

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    Not for my S&W Model 457 .45 ACP, which is a short-barrelled, blowback pistol. The .45 definitely does suffer a huge velocity loss so using a lighter load is a must.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Storm View Post
    Not for my S&W Model 457 .45 ACP, which is a short-barrelled, blowback pistol. The .45 definitely does suffer a huge velocity loss so using a lighter load is a must.
    Your 457 is NOT a blowback operated pistol; it's a traditional locked-breech, tilt barrel design.

    And please explain why using a lighter load is "a must".
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    I think he misunderstands the relationship of the .45 ACP and velocity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuda66 View Post
    Your 457 is NOT a blowback operated pistol; it's a traditional locked-breech, tilt barrel design.

    And please explain why using a lighter load is "a must".
    Because the smaller the barrel length, the less velocity for a standard 230 gr.. To ensure more velocity, I prefer lighter loads in Federal Hydrashock JHP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuda66 View Post
    Your 457 is NOT a blowback operated pistol; it's a traditional locked-breech, tilt barrel design.

    And please explain why using a lighter load is "a must".
    I meant that it has a short blowback barrel as stated in Gun Magazine by Massad Ayoob when it first appeared in circulation. They stopped manufacture of the Model 457 this year but I still decide to hold on to it since I can still get its spare parts/magazines from the company itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Storm View Post
    Because the smaller the barrel length, the less velocity for a standard 230 gr.. To ensure more velocity, I prefer lighter loads in Federal Hydrashock JHP.
    Riiiiight.

    If you ever have the chance, you should try firing some of your zippenfaster 185's and some standard velocity 230's out of your pistol over a chronograph...you may be very surprised at how little difference there actually is.
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