4 inch, Beretta 9000s
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4 inch, Beretta 9000s
George H. Foster
I find it interesting that a lot of people here recommend +P rounds for short barreled pistols; in my experience, all a +P does out of a short barrel is gain you more muzzle flash, without gaining all that much velocity over a non +P...in fact, usually as a percentage, the +P's lose considerably greater velocity out of short barrels than non+P due to the inefficient burn.
The only times I like to run +P is in longer barreled pistols that will make the most use of the extra velocity...
My two cents.
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I just bought 5000 bullits of Speer Gold Dots 147Gr HP's. Loading them over some Unique Powder that works just fine and prints at the same place as 115Gr FMJ ammo does out to 15Yards. Not too hot and very accurate for Plinking and other uses. Read that as PPC if you need that.
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If you need to increase pressure in a high pressure cartridge to achieve desired results, move up a caliber so you get more velocity per grain weight with equal pressure.
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I have yet to see any ballistics that do not show these two rounds utterly dominating all others. Corbon DPX is a close second because it is like a HST with less mass. I still have a box of these since they make my 21SF lighter when wearing shorts. If I cant get HST I get Talons and if I cant get those I go DPX147gr HST's and Ranger T's are hard to beat
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How bout some love for the 147gr Golden Saber Bonded.
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I have read authoritative articles that recommend 115 grain 9mm bullets as the most effective weight for that caliber for SD.
I have read authoritative articles that recommend 147 grain 9mm bullets as the most effective weight for that caliber for SD.
I don't have the expertise, time, or money to try and decide which is right, so I went with the Goldilocks solution:
I carry 124 grain +P in a major brand JHP.
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