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This is a discussion on what's best 9mm short barrel ammo. within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by SigFan I'm by no means an expert, but I'd have to say the author of the artle "Ammunition for the Self Defense ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SigFan View Post
    I'm by no means an expert, but I'd have to say the author of the artle "Ammunition for the Self Defense Firearm" is not a reliable source. Seems like there is a lot of personal opinion and very little fact or empirical testing behind those opinions.

    Bottom line is use what you can shoot accurately and reliably in your gun.
    I agree with that 100%; I'll even go further, and add that the information posted on that source is grossly outdated, and also relies heavily on utterly discredited data (M&S, "Strasbourg tests", et al).

    In short, it's complete bunk.

    A little more recent piece on good carry ammo: Best Choices for Self Defense Ammo

    A shorter barrel won't make too big of a difference, perfomrance-wise. Try it in your pistol, see if it works 100%, and see if it shoots with reasonable accuracy and control, and carry with confidence.
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    Buffalo bore claims all their +p 9mm ammo is flash surpressed to reduce muzzle flash and avoid ruinning you night vision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Glock View Post
    don't go heavier than 124grn. winchester PDX1 124grn standard pressure is a good one. they have it at meijers at a good price too.

    federal HST is the best, but hard to find.
    Actually the heavier loads lose less velocity from a short barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texag View Post
    Actually the heavier loads lose less velocity from a short barrel.
    Very true.
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    The beautiful thing about good 9mm defensive ammo is that it EXCELS when fired from short barrels.

    Any 124-grain JHP from a reputable manufacturer is a good bet, but I'd seek out Winchester PDX1, Federal HST, or Speer Gold Dot. I prefer +P loads.

    115-grainers aren't a bad choice either, but the 124's seem to be setting the standard nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbourneidentity View Post
    115-grainers aren't a bad choice either, but the 124's seem to be setting the standard nowadays.
    Outside of the DPX most 115gr 9mm struggle to reliably penetrate 12". The heavier 124 or 147gr bullets are a better choice.

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    Doesn't a heavier bullet mean lower muzzle energy, and thus lower "stopping power" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyanLite View Post
    Doesn't a heavier bullet mean lower muzzle energy, and thus lower "stopping power" ?
    No, the weight gives you much more momentum. "stopping power" will be fought over on this forum forever, but 1 well placed 45 is better than 1 well placed 9mm even though the 9mm is much faster usually. Just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyanLite View Post
    Doesn't a heavier bullet mean lower muzzle energy, and thus lower "stopping power" ?
    Muzzle energy is not useful for measuring terminal performance. Anyone that tells you otherwise is misinformed.

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    Go to youtube and search for tnoutdoors9. He does extensive testing of various defensive rounds, especially 9mm. I find his videos to be very informative.
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    I never shot short barreled ammo. In my Kahr P9, and PM9, I shoot 9mm +p, or +p+ 115gr JHP, Speer, Federal, or Doubletap and the flash and blast are very manageable, in daylight or darkness.

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    I just settled on DPX1 147 grain rounds for my subcompact XD9mm. Loving the performance.
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    I just settled on DPX1 147 grain rounds for my subcompact XD9mm.
    I don't find either DPX1 or a 147 gr. DPX on Corbon's website. Is it possible you mean another Corbon cartridge?

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    I bet that's a typo and he means Winchester PDX1.

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    *EDIT - Every time I reply to something, someone beats me to it!

    I'm guessing he means Winchester's Bonded PDX1. It's a civilian available line and is set to replace the SXT line from my understanding (but that's just what i heard, nothing to back that up). It lacks the talons of the Ranger T-Series line. I'd stick with Ranger T-Series or HST in any caliber and any weight. For 9mm, I like 147 grain and understand (stated by Dr. Roberts if I remember correctly) it's the best choice for the 3.5 or 4" barrel. 124 is a fine choice as well, but 147 loses less velocity on impact where higher velocity, lighter rounds lose more on impact, part of the reason for the higher (and misunderstood) muzzle energy.
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