NON-Hollowpoint Ammo... Discuss...

NON-Hollowpoint Ammo... Discuss...

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    Question NON-Hollowpoint Ammo... Discuss...

    Got thinking today on the way to work...

    Say you're a resident of New Jersey with a pistol at home...

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    One of those rare enough to have a permit to carry with a permit or under HR 218...


    What options out there would be considered viable for home/self defense that IS NOT a Hollow Point...



    If possible, please explain or give ballistic testing/theory for why you choose to suggest a certain ammo...
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    Is SJHP allowed in NJ? If so, then I would go with it. If not, I would go with anything from this list or anything that is listed as "training ammo" from this list.
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    Federal Expanding FMJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightrider View Post
    Is SJHP allowed in NJ? If so, then I would go with it. If not, I would go with anything from this list or anything that is listed as "training ammo" from this list.

    The "SJHP" suggest that the HP in the type of ammo is Hollow Point...
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    1. Wad cutters have a nice sharp edge and I don't mind carrying them in most calibers.
    2. 45acp makes a big hole without expanding.
    3. Light bullets with low velocity that would give up penatration with expanding bullet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMOE View Post
    Federal Expanding FMJ
    +1 here. This is good stuff.

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    I have a friend in New Jersey that is a retired LEO.

    We have had this discussion in the past. He uses Federal EFMJ and Corbon Power Ball, depending upon what gun he is carrying that day. I was under the impression that hollowpoints were legal in New Jersey in the home, just not for street carry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMOE View Post
    Federal Expanding FMJ
    Yep. Not as good as the real thing, but as close as you're gonna get if you live in a state with moronic laws.

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    wait...some states limit ammunition type???

    I did not know that. What's the punishment for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kavity View Post
    wait...some states limit ammunition type???

    I did not know that. What's the punishment for that?
    I believe it can be a seperate felony for each hollowpoint bullet.

    Have fun with Mongo.

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    Critical Defense is not considered a HP nor the Pow'R Ball by Corbon as previously mentioned. I like a .45 personally, cuz its still bigger than most expanded HP in a FMJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerRN View Post
    I believe it can be a seperate felony for each hollowpoint bullet.
    Indeed it is. The wife of an instructor of mine was busted in NJ for carrying; fortunately it was a K-frame and not a G19. One charge for carrying without a permit, 6 more for carrying HPs.

    The problem was resolved within 48 hours, with large sums of money (five figures) going to the NJ courts and an attorney. No felony record. though.
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    How about a 12 gauge,that would beat them all. sj

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    Well, since in NJ you're also limited to ten rounds, I'd probably go with either a Glock 29 in 10mm, or Glock 30 in .45 acp, both loaded with fmj. I have carried Corbon Pow R' Ball in 135 grain in both a Glock 23 and an XDM, and while they fed fine, it had more to do with being really limited in SD ammo and falling for good salesmanship than personal preference. Those days are gone now, and I can find good SD ammo in my calibers.

    Sort of a moot point to discuss actually, since getting a permit in New Jersey is practically impossible, HP's are legal in the home, and I'd rather hang myself in the shower than live there anyway.
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