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    Modern quality built firearms typically handle heavy for caliber loads very well and this is an understatement! Major manufactures now know that heavier bullets are being used in the LE community far more than yesteryear. All 12 of my handguns never hick-up on heavier bullets. Many folks choose "proven weapon systems" that LE uses in order to put more odds in their favor with quality premium ammo that should function in a quality built pistol.

    For those having feeding problems, have a gunsmith check your handgun out, and perhaps have the throat / feed ramp polished. The magazine's lips can also be an issue, as well as something as simple as limp-wristing.

    Look for other caused first before blaming the ammo!!!
    Aim for the Thoracic Triangle Area between the armpits and the base of throat.

    1. Shot Placement: Center Mass Between the Armpits & Base of Throat
    2. Heavy for Caliber Bullet Weight / Construction
    3. Choice of Caliber


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    Quote Originally Posted by skystud1 View Post
    Could someone help me pick either 9mm speer gd 115+p+ and HST 124+p or HST 147 grain. They will be shot out of a Glock 26 or Kahr PM9
    Stephen Camp gets 1250 from a G26 using Win. 127gr. +P+ LEO only load. So that's what I carry in my G26 amd G19.

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    Other good 9mm loads to consider:


    Federal HST: LE Only
    ** 147-gr. +P HST HP (P9HST4)@ 1,050 fps +P Outperforms Standard Pressure Version
    * 147-gr. HST HP (P9HST2) @ 1,000 fps Standard Pressure is Still OK, but +P is Preferred

    Winchester Ranger T: LE Only
    ** 147-gr. HP (RA9T) @ 990 fps
    * 124-gr. Bonded HP (RA9124TP) @ 1,180 fps
    * 124-gr. +P Bonded HP (RA9BAB) @ 1,180 fps
    * 127-gr. +P+ HP (RA9TA) @ 1,250 fps
    * 147-gr. Bonded HP (RA9B) @ 995 fps

    Buffalo Bore:
    ** 124-gr. +P+ Bonded Gold Dot HP (24B)
    * 147-gr. +P+ Bonded Gold Dot HP (24C)
    * 124-gr. +P Bonded Gold Dot HP (24E)
    124-gr. +P+ Penetrator FMJ (24F) For barrier penetration & protection in the mountains.

    Remington Golden Saber: Similar to Ranger T
    * 147-gr. HP (GS9MMC)
    124-gr. +P Bonded HP (GSB9MMD)
    147-gr. +P Bonded HP (GSB9MMC)

    Federal Tactical: LE Only
    * 135-gr. +P Bonded HP (LE9T5)
    124-gr. Bonded HP (LE9T1)

    Winchester Supreme Elite: Civilian Version of Bonded Ranger T
    * 124-gr. +P Bonded PDX1 HP (S9MMPDB) @ 1,200 fps
    147-gr. Bonded PDX1 HP (S9MMPDB1) @ 1,000 fps

    Speer Gold Dot: See also Double Tap & Black Hills with Gold Dot Loadings
    * 124-gr. +P Bonded HP (23617)
    147-gr. Bonded HP (23619)
    124-gr. Bonded HP (23618)

    Corbon – Dakota Ammo:
    * 115-gr. +P DPX [Barnes XPB] Copper Jacketed HP (DPX09115-20)

    Double Tap:
    * 115-gr. +P Barnes Tac-XP Copper Jacketed HP
    147-gr. +P Flat Nose FMJ: For barrier penetration & protection in the mountains.

    Black Hills:
    * 115-gr. +P Barnes Tac-XP

    Barnes:
    * 115-gr. +P XPB Copper Jacketed HP

    Winchester White Box USA Brand: Low-Budget Load at Walmart – When That’s All You Can Find!
    147-gr. HP (USA9JHP2) @ 990 fps
    Aim for the Thoracic Triangle Area between the armpits and the base of throat.

    1. Shot Placement: Center Mass Between the Armpits & Base of Throat
    2. Heavy for Caliber Bullet Weight / Construction
    3. Choice of Caliber

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    Anything I carry, I test on live animals. On farm hogs weighing 250-350 pounds and a white tail doe, I can tell you without question the 147 grain is the way to go. I use Remington golden sabers which is what I used to dispatch the animals with. All animals went down quickly except the deer, but it only went about 60 yards and piled up. I don't care what any so called test say, most all have an agenda. Shooting jelly, water jugs, and so on makes for interesting reading, but doesn't mean crap when comparing how a bullet works against live creatures. Penetration is what you need, with expansion being a necassary, but secondary requirement. I would not think of carrying anything in my g26 except 147 grain golden sabers.
    Like your testing methods. Any pictures of the game or bullets or were the bullets not recovered?

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    HST...IMO there is no better round currently available. I've looked at all the data, specs, seen the test results and it outperforms other options a majority of the time repeatedly.

    It's also very consistent from round to round, box to box which is important because you don't want variation in your SD round.
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    i use HST 147 grain, and feel good about it.below is a link video of the 147 hst in action and results.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpO5kPuQYrA
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    I prefer the lighter grain rounds (I like the SPG's), but your Glock will shoot anything. I also hear that the BG's will accept any round.
    haha agreed
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    Fed HST 124 gr.... but make sure your gun likes them.

    I have a couple of guns that don't like any 147 gr HP's .... so I don't have them at all so I don't have to think about which gun likes what.
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    I carry 147 grain HST and never looked back

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    Like LanceORYGUN I did the water jug collect.

    My XD9SC and MK9's shoot and eat the 124 HST (left) and Hydra-Shok (right) with no problems. Haven't tried the heavier ones (cause I don't have them).

    I've run Speer Gold Dot and Federal Tactical LE and a few others over the years. The HST's just seem to work better for me. They are getting harder to find too.

    One of these days I will collect an HST from the .45.

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    I usually carry the Ranger in 124gr+P or the 127gr+P+

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    Quote Originally Posted by 147 Grain View Post
    Other good 9mm loads to consider:


    Federal HST: LE Only
    ** 147-gr. +P HST HP (P9HST4)@ 1,050 fps +P Outperforms Standard Pressure Version
    * 147-gr. HST HP (P9HST2) @ 1,000 fps Standard Pressure is Still OK, but +P is Preferred
    What is your source? Everything I've seen and experienced shows them to be exactly the same with the +P having 10% more recoil. The 147gr performs flawlessly as is, and to say that the +P "outperforms" it is a stretch. It's thought that the plus pressure load may over-expand although it remains to be seen if that is the case.
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