Brass Headstamp Mystery?

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    Question Brass Headstamp Mystery?

    So I've got a little mystery going on here, and was hoping ya'll might be able to help me. To make a long story short, I bought four boxes of Federal S&W .40 from walmart over the course of this past week and shot up all of it. Now while I was sorting and cleaning my brass I found the normal head stamps saying "Federal, S&W, .40" but I ALSO found about 17 cases that say "*I*, S&W, .40".

    At first I thought I picked up a few of someone else brass from a range I went to, but then I found some passed over brass on my course here on my own land with the *I* head stamp.

    Why would these two head stamps be mixed in the same box of federal? Is it just a different federal stamp, or could it be a +1 type charge and perhaps they just got mixed up in the wrong carton? I think its strange I only have 17 cases out of 200.

    Thanks for the thoughts, hope someone can set me straight. ha!
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    I wonder if those were Independence cases; both Independence and Federal are ATK brands, and are quite possibly produced at the same facility.
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    Makes total sense with the 'I' head stamp. However, isn't Independence ammo crap?
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    http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/...=66958#p569526

    So that is their head stamp. Thanks Cuda66
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    You know....this sounds real familiar to me. If I were to go through some of my once fired brass, I'd probably come across some of the same markings. The headstamp marking doesn't always denote the specific ammunition manufacturer (as in loaded cartridges). Many times components are purchased from outside sources. Therefore, the headstamp will only point to the brass manufacturer and not necessarily the ammo manufacturer. Or it could also be both. From my research on the internet, the *I* headstamp does point to the Independence manufactured brass or cartridges. The resources are easy to find with the right keywords. Either way....as far as reloading these cases, the information given says no worries. Quality brass. As to how it got mixed in with your S&W, that's as good a guess as any of us could make. These days....with multiple corporations buying out each other or in acquisition, there's no telling. That's all corporate stuff. If you really need some links, I'll dig them up for you. Thing is, I've come across so many pertaining to this simply searching the internet, that I don't feel I'd need to supply the links nor do the simple research for you.
    Independence ammo is not crap. I've shot a lot of it....mainly 45acp.
    I see someone got you a real good link.

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    Thanks for the information Ram Rod. It all makes more sense now, had no FTF with it, so I imagine its fine and I'll keep on keeping on with the federal.
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    Years ago I was able to go on a tour of the Remington Arms plant in Lonoke, Arkansas where every round with the Remington logo comes from.
    Imagine my surprise when looking through the brass to be loaded and found headstamps made for CorBon and others. Aa Ram Rod said it is not uncommon for smaller companies to have their brass made by bigger companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunetteMP View Post
    Makes total sense with the 'I' head stamp. However, isn't Independence ammo crap?
    I haven't had any bad luck with it; always shot fine for me.
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    Never had an issue with Independence brass. CBC on the other hand...
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    Here's a very cool headstamp ID resource:

    http://www.afte.org/ExamResources/ga...stamp-Gallery/
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    And here is the headstamp:

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattInFla View Post
    Here's a very cool headstamp ID resource:

    http://www.afte.org/ExamResources/ga...stamp-Gallery/
    Thanks! This is very helpful!
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