This is a discussion on 357 vs. 45 ? within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by BikerRN I met the Internet version of the "boogieman" in a professional capacity. This was one person that literally scared me. I ...
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What are you able to shoot well? Shot placement.....380 or 500 Magnum...can you shoot it well enough to defend yourself under stress? Hopefully the majority of us will never have to find out....
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Would not want to get hit by any of them, nuff said.
I have both and prefer the 45...I like bigger holes! They tend to leak more.
I dont trust a handgun calibar bullet to KNOCK DOWN someone...so I want blood loss! IMHO bigger is better.
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Neither of which is Marine Corps policy.
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I have both calibers and feel equally confident in the end results of each.
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Both .357 Mag and .38 Spec use .357 caliber bullets, not .38. Cartridge name is meaningless wrt bore/bullet size as the two are rarely the same. .270<>.277, .30-06<>.308, .44<>.429, ...
Would a Colt Delta Elite be a nice compromise? 10mm punch in a 1911 style package!
Good lord I need about 20 grand to fund all my must have guns
Still never heard back from the OP as to where his question was headed... 3 days and 50+ posts later.
I wonder if he had a real question or just wanted to stir the pot!
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only one way to settle this, pistols at 20 paces, lol
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All I need Is a Sig 226 .40. And .556 tactical carbine of some sort.
I don't think Billy Badass attacking you will give a hoot what it is when he is hit with it. Generally though I have read that a .357 round being a hotter load with more velocity causes more shock trauma than a .45acp which is traveling slower. The .45acp will tear more tissue as it passes through creating a larger wound channel, but won't produce the same type of surrounding shock trauma generally speaking. Not that I am an expert but my reading has always come to this conclusion. Then there is Dr. Roberts who's studies show that a fast moving .357sig round does about the same damage as a .45acp in the "shock trauma" department.
Notice how the .357sig traveling at 1319fps is doing about the same damage as any other round and penetrates to the same depth (past 12"). What this tells me is that it doesn't matter as long as you hit the target. Shot placement is the winner.
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