This is a discussion on Honest thoughts on .32 ACP? within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by HiFreq47 You don't need to. Energy is a factor of weight and speed ... and a .32 needs to move very very ...
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Ever combined BBs and rubber bands? Or a rubber band and "football" folded piece of paper with staples in it? We used to call them "stingers" in middle school. My friends would always get me as I was taking care of business at the urinal... no way to defend!
If one is going to rely on a .32 they really need to get out and practice, A LOT!
The .32, .380, and other marginal calibers are contact weapons best used by placing the barrel in the eye, mouth, or ear of the attacker, and firing as long as the target remains standing.
Is the gun dependable? Can you shoot it worth a darn? If the answer is "yes," then you are well-armed.
If European Police and civilians used the .32 for years and it did well, I see no reason not to carry one. I have a Bersa .32 which holds 10 + 1 rounds and shoots well. I use Fiocchi 73 gr FMJ which gets good penetration. As one of the posters here said, a guy accidentally shot himself with a .32 and died from internal bleeding. It is enough round to do the job, and with such light recoil it is easy to put 3 or 4 rounds center mass.
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Crap, I got suckered into an old thread.
My opinion shouldn't be taken seriously due to the fact that I've been shooting guns for over 30 years and have only recently been active on gun forums, where all the real world knowledge apparently is.
Contrary to popular opinion, there are some .32 ACP loads that will expand. I found one that will also penetrate a fair distance. I was thinking about retesting the Fiocchi later today in the new clear gel I have been using just to see how it will do.
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IMO the only crap round there is, is the .25 acp. The .32 will do the job.
.32 ACP extremes in thought:
Obviously I have a Kel-Tec P32. It is my around the house gun (to get me to something bigger if need be) and my "when I can't carry" gun. There are times one wants to be armed but for one reason or another absolutely has to be 100% concealed no matter what. The only guns that do that better than the P32 in my experience are the NAA minis, and they are even more of a trade-off. I haven't shot the P3AT, but my wife has an LCP and it is very similar. The P32 is lighter, has much less recoil, holds more ammunition, and is much easier to shoot well (for me anyway). I don't use JHP ammunition in the .32 ACP, just 73 grain ball from one European manufacturer or another. It isn't a perfect "holdout" gun, but it makes the grade IMO for the role it was intended to fill.
That said, when people talk about the various police forces in Europe using the .32 ACP, they are not talking about cops with P32s and similar guns. European police forces used guns like the Walther PP and PPK, the Beretta 81, the CZ70, CZ83, and similar sized handguns. They had longer barrels, better triggers, and better sights. Plus, they were shooting European spec .32 ACP (7.65x17mm if you will), which is hotter than most .32 ACP ammunition in the US. Then, of course, there is the VZ61 Skorpion machine pistol. While 1 .32 ACP round might not be much in the grand scheme of things, a burst of 10 or 20 of them will ruin your whole day. The VZ61 is reported to be pretty easy to control in full-auto because of the light recoil. My semi-automatic only version is great fun and completely reliable.
I like .32 caliber cartridges in general, and that includes the ACP. I carry a P32 regularly, and I wouldn't hesitate to carry a CZ 83 or Beretta 81 as a primary weapon if I had one available. At the same time, the micro .380s don't do anything for me, too much of a good thing perhaps, but I just don't have a lot of faith in them. On the other hand, my new carry gun is a Beretta 84FS, 14 rounds of 102 grain Golden Sabres in a reliable, accurate, and compact package is a great home for the .380 ACP cartridge.
"The Engine could still smile...it seemed to scare them" -Felix
A properly placed bullet regardless of its caliber will kill you just as dead regardless of how big or how small it is.
I saw on the news that a US Military Man got shot diagonally through the torso with an RPG. Lucky for him the grenade didn't go off!!!
The tip-end was sticking out of his hip area and the tail was sticking out around his ribs. They were able to remove it surgically and he survived! He is living a surprisingly near-norm life today!
I salute him !!!
So what caliber would that be equal to?