Rem. .357 mag. GS vs. 9mm+P GS SD load's

Rem. .357 mag. GS vs. 9mm+P GS SD load's

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    Rem. .357 mag. GS vs. 9mm+P GS SD load's

    I was looking at remingtons web-site on ballistics and comparing the .357mag. 125gr GS and 9mm +P 124gr. and the data shows:

    .357 125 gr Golden Saber: 1220 fps / 368 ft-lb
    9mm+P 124 gr Golden Saber: 1180 fps / 383 ft-lb

    I could not find which guns or bbl length was used for ballistic testing, however, if we assume the testing was done with a 4" bbl for both loads:

    Which would be the better SD load?
    Why?

    I know that rem's. .357 mag. GS load is med. velocity, and there are many more potent .357 mag loads out there, and I am just looking for opinions on these two GS rounds.

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    the results defy physics. The 357 is heavier and going faster but has less energy?? t'aint possible.
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    My math says -

    125 gr Golden Saber: 1220 fps - 411 ft lbs

    124 gr Golden Saber: 1180 fps - 381 ft lbs

    Not sure what formula they are using! I use a small approximation but it is very close to actual.
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    How come the .357mag loads (125gr.)that we hear about are staying so far away from the 1400+fps figures ??

    I never knew that a full power 9mm could come so close to a full power .357mag. There's gotta be some bbl length issues in that equasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sigbear
    I was looking at remingtons web-site on ballistics and comparing the .357mag. 125gr GS and 9mm +P 124gr. and the data shows:

    .357 125 gr Golden Saber: 1220 fps / 368 ft-lb
    9mm+P 124 gr Golden Saber: 1180 fps / 383 ft-lb

    Sigbear
    Sigbear, I don't know where you got your numbers, but they are not what is shown on the Remington site for the .357mag at:

    http://www.remington.com/products/am...e=pistol&cal=5

    and for the 9mm +p at:

    http://www.remington.com/products/am...e=pistol&cal=6

    The above charts show:
    .357 125 gr Golden Saber: 1220 fps / 413 ft-lb
    9mm+P 124 gr Golden Saber: 1180 fps / 384 ft-lb
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    This is Where I Got My Info, However, It Looks Bad.

    Looks like my info was incorrect, got it from the attached URL's

    http://www.remingtonle.com/ammo/pr_b...cs/357_mag.htm
    http://www.remingtonle.com/ammo/pr_b...ics/9mm_la.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by sigbear
    Looks like my info was incorrect, got it from the attached URL's

    http://www.remingtonle.com/ammo/pr_b...cs/357_mag.htm
    http://www.remingtonle.com/ammo/pr_b...ics/9mm_la.htm

    Sigbear
    There is an obvious error in the .357 mag listing. It lists 368 ft-lb for both the energy at muzzle and at 25 yards. There is a calculator on the regular Remington site that will give you the energy figure and for a 125 gr. bullet travelling at 1220 fps the energy is 413 ft-lb. The calculator is at the bottom of this page.

    http://www.remington.com/Products/Am...on/Ballistics/

    Now that we have the numbers right it appears there is a much greater difference in the energy level than at first indicated. Your question should now be easier to answer. I'll leave that to the ballistics experts.
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