124Gr. vs 124Gr. +P

124Gr. vs 124Gr. +P

This is a discussion on 124Gr. vs 124Gr. +P within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I usually carry Remington Golden Saber 124Gr+P in my 9mms. Unfortunately my local shop only carries the regular pressure, non+P version of this ammo. According ...

Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: 124Gr. vs 124Gr. +P

  1. #1
    Member Array mattwestm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Eastern NC
    Posts
    176

    124Gr. vs 124Gr. +P

    I usually carry Remington Golden Saber 124Gr+P in my 9mms. Unfortunately my local shop only carries the regular pressure, non+P version of this ammo. According to the Remington website, there is less than 100fps difference and less than 50lbs of energy difference between the two. That being said, the +P round probably has a little better penetration. It is worth it to buy the +P stuff online or should I just buy the standard pressure. I started buying the +P since it was usually the same price, but I'm now thinking there isn't much of a difference. Do you guys carry +P or standard pressure ammo for defense?


  2. #2
    Member Array bruce21b's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Lexington Ky
    Posts
    346
    matt,

    i have several 9mm's.....a glock and couple berettas......i usually load up +P for defense in my glock but shoot standard loads in the beretta......

    i could live with the standard loads in my glock also.....i really dont think there is that much of a difference in performance, especially given todays advanced hollow point designs

  3. #3
    Distinguished Member Array LanceORYGUN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    ORYGUN
    Posts
    1,517
    For 9mm I load Federal's 9mm +P 124 gr HST ammo, which is rated at an even 1,200 fps, which is only 20 fps more than your Golden Saber +P load.

    You can buy hotter +P ammo if you want more power. Corbon has a 9mm +P 125 gr JHP load that is rated at 1,250 fps. Double Tap Ammo has a 9mm +P 124 gr JHP load that gives an even 1,300 fps.

    .

  4. #4
    VIP Member Array glockman10mm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Kentucky
    Posts
    8,957
    The Double Tap 124 grain at 1300 fps is what I will be using in my g17. I am waiting on it to arrive anyday. On the other end of the scale, I like the +p 147 grain Golden Sabers too, and carry them in my g26.

  5. #5
    VIP Member Array Old School's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Florida Treasure Coast
    Posts
    3,211
    In my Glocks it's Gold Dot or Golden Saber and in my Hi-Power it's Federal 9BP. I use standard velocity rounds with heavy for caliber bullets except in the HP. As I get older I have become a little more recoil sensitive and I want controled followup shots.
    "Violence is seldom the answer, but when it is the answer it is the only answer".

    "A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves".

    http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/

  6. #6
    Member Array WvHiker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    West Virginia
    Posts
    310
    I use 124 grain standard pressure Golden Sabres in my G19 as my regular carry load. I've shot some +P ammo through my gun, but honestly don't really worry too much about it. I use the standard pressure stuff because I can buy it locally. I'm sure the +P version is a little more powerful, but if I was really that worried about it I'd start carrying around a .357 Mag. Which isn't a bad idea, I just don't have one...yet.

  7. #7
    Ex Member Array Ram Rod's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Fayetteville, AR
    Posts
    13,687
    Nothing wrong with the Golden Sabers IMO... Regular strength, or otherwise. I've depended on the Speer GDHP 124gr+P for years since I work with them well(9mm). Granted....I may have been doing this for ten years before you even thought about it. Love my Golden Sabers in 45ACP.

  8. #8
    Distinguished Member Array AutoFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Arid Zone A
    Posts
    1,561
    I use the standard pressure rounds, as I can't find +p practice ammo. I want the gun to react the same every time I shoot it. Not to mention the +p has got to be more wear and tear on gun and shooter.

  9. #9
    kpw
    kpw is offline
    VIP Member Array kpw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    2,152
    Carrying with +P ammo is fine as long as you shoot enough of it to ensure reliable functioning. It's also good to note any POI changes from your standard practice ammo. My choice for years has been the 124 +P Gold Dot. It's generally easy to find, has a good record and I usually find the best deals on it. I'll usually shoot 300-500 rounds a year of the stuff through my carry guns. It ain't cheap but I know where it hits and I know it's reliable in my guns. I wish I could afford to shoot more of it, as it's one of the more accurate loads I've shot in numerous pistols, but I have to settle for a few mags worth a month. As for performance, it may only offer a slight advantage if any, over standard pressure stuff but I'll take any advantage I can get if the positives outweigh the negatives. For me, it does.
    "In a republic this rule ought to be observed: that the majority should not have the predominant power." -
    -- Marcus Tullius Cicero

  10. #10
    Senior Member Array Ring's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    ohio
    Posts
    545
    allways shoot the fastes hardest hitting round you can shoot accuraty and fast...

    general rule

  11. #11
    Distinguished Member Array LanceORYGUN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    ORYGUN
    Posts
    1,517
    Here is a bullet recovered from being shot into plastic jugs filled with water using Federal's 9mm 124 gr +P HST Law Enforcement load.

    This looks pretty dog-gone impressive to me:





    If you go with Golden Sabres, I would get their standard hollowpoint, and not the new Bonded version of their ammo, which is designed for Law Enforcement. While the Bonded Golden Sabre ammo offers very deep penetration, some tests have show its expansion to be very erratic.

    Here is a bullet from a Golden Sabre Bonded Law Enforcement 9mm 124 gr +P load that was also fired into a row of water filled plastic jugs and recovered:





  12. #12
    Senior Member Array Ring's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    ohio
    Posts
    545
    40sw gold dot that hit a ground hog and i dug out of the dirt






    40 corbon barns DPX another groundhog hit





  13. #13
    CMR
    CMR is offline
    Member Array CMR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Ypsi, MI
    Posts
    235
    I personally don't want to get hit with standard or +P stuff!!!!
    For a lot of people, being a victim is a way of Life. That's a Life I choose NOT to live.

    A Shepherd must tend to his Flock. And at times........fight off the wolves.

Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Similar Threads

  1. 9mm 115gr versus 124gr
    By fatcat in forum Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: April 11th, 2009, 09:06 PM
  2. How Effective Is 9mm 124gr HP, on Bad Dog
    By sigbear in forum Defensive Carry Guns
    Replies: 31
    Last Post: August 4th, 2007, 07:29 AM
  3. Federal 124gr +P EFMJ Unavailable?
    By Joshua M. Smith in forum Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: February 17th, 2007, 01:08 PM
  4. Hornady 9mm 124gr TAP FPD?
    By rimfirehunter in forum Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: October 29th, 2006, 07:01 AM

Search tags for this page

124gr vs 124gr p

,
9mm 124gr vs 124gr p
,

9mm hst

,

federal 9mm ammo

,
federal hst 124gr jhp
,

federal hst 9mm

,
golden saber 9mm
,
golden sabre 9mm
,

hst ammo

,

remington 9mm 124 gr jhp

,

remington golden saber 9mm 124 grain reviews

,

remington golden saber 9mm review

Click on a term to search for related topics.