PoliceHQ has it, but depending on the backlog you may be looking at several months before you get it. I had to wait 7 months to get .45 ACP HST from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjjohnson
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PoliceHQ has it, but depending on the backlog you may be looking at several months before you get it. I had to wait 7 months to get .45 ACP HST from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjjohnson
My understanding of 1911s that Ive seen is the feed ramp is a bit steeper than other pistols. I'm having problems feeding hollow points through my springfield 1911 as a whole regardless of which hollow points I've used. I've got a buddy who swears by the CD rounds and has not had a single failure with them. However he is using them in Glocks and his SIGs which allow for a much straighter shot into the chamber than the 1911s Ive seen. I do not like the idea though of relying on VOODOO magic to make a round feed in my defensive weapon, I would suggest like others have to try different defensive ammo and possibly switch.
The mags that came with my Springfield Mil-Spec as well as the after market 8 rounder CMC Shooting Star mags were unreliable in feeding the first hollowpoint in the magazine, additionally one of the CMC mags has a bad spring that to this day causes a Failure to Return to Battery malfunction where in every one in few rounds misses the extractor groove; it has been retired from range duty permanently.Quote:
Originally Posted by skysoldier29
Frustrated with the issue I bought a Wilson 47D and a Tripp Research Cobra mag to assess each for their merits; both feed any hollowpoint flawlessly in my SA 1911. The number one reliability issue with a 1911 is the magazine followed closely by a less than satisfactorily polished feed ramp and/or an improperly tuned extractor.
To give you an idea of what a 1911 is capable of a 1911 with a reliability job done by a competent 1911 gunsmith will feed and extract an empty casing 100% of the time.
Being new to CC I've been scouring the forums and web to learn about the various personal defense loads and came across the below caution regarding Critical Defense. You can decide if it has merit.....
http://firearmstactical.com/tactical...06/04/main.htm
Thanks for this discussion, it helps as I continue researching and buying various loads to do my own testing.
The advertising?Quote:
Originally Posted by KoB
It doesn't do anything better than HST, Gold Dot, Ranger-T, or DPX. In fact it does not penetrate as well, looks to have a relatively small expanded diameter, and has reliability issues due to the rubber plug in the nose catching the feedramp in some guns. It's a free country and all, but everyone that touts critical defense has talking points straight out of Hornady's ads, and no recourse when actual testing data is brought up.
I carry the CD ammo in my Model 12 Airweight. It cannot handle +P ammo and there is not another standard .38spl round that looks as good on paper. Out of a 4" barrel Hornady claims 1010fps/249lbft. I will chrono it soon and display the result. I also have the .38 +P loaded in my SP101 and will chrono it there as well to see what the performance is like out of a 2.25" barrel.
My 1911 feeds 230g Winchester JHPs just fine. I've fired 92 of them through it without a FTF or FTE. My local Wally World had them on sale so I grabbed two boxes. The other 8 rounds are currently loaded in the weapon. Not necessarily my .45 round of choice for personal defense, but they are in there, will more then likely get the job done, and I'm fairly confident it will all work correctly if called upon if needed.
It really hasn't been on the street long enough to get any solid data, nor can I find any independent testing through intermediate barriers.Quote:
Originally Posted by fmcgraw
LMAO…Quote:
Originally Posted by Texag
We can sit here and debate "expansion" vs "penetration", "bonded" vs "unbonded", "light barrier" vs "heavy barrier", etc…
Bottom line…my dime, my ammo!
By the way, any volunteers to take a CD slug, so we can determine it's real effectiveness? Or if it meets the criteria of a
Self-defense round?
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Originally Posted by KoB
For what it's worth, my 2.25" Ruger SP101 is loaded with 125 grain CD because it's the easiest thing to get a hold of in my neck of the woods without grossly overpaying for golden saber; it will stay that way at least until the newly announced .357 Magnum loading in PDX1 is in steady supply. My two speedstrips are loaded with Winchester Super-X 158 grain JSP in case the first wave doesn't get the job done.
Well there really isn't a debate since there is detailed testing of the rounds I mentioned, but none of CD.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoB
I don't think anyones gonna volunteer to take a round of anything. That still doesn't change the fact that "you wouldn't take a round from it!" is one of, if not THE, most imbecilic argument ever used to rationalize firearms-related purchase.
Stephen Camp thinks its a decent ammo in standard .38spl and .380
G&A thought it was okay tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Stephen Camp
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Originally Posted by Guns and Ammo
Granted, both are informal....but you get the idea.
I've been saying that for quite some time...I doubt anyone who used this "logic" actually thinks about it first...Quote:
Originally Posted by Texag
I've been poking around the Federal website. Does anyone have any thoughts regarding their new Guard Dog ammo? Also, I couldn't find anything on their hst ammo??
Guard Dog looks like repackaged EFMJ, which has never been noted for stellar performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjjohnson
And you'll find HST on their Law Enforcement line.