Hollow points or FMJ in the backcountry?

Hollow points or FMJ in the backcountry?

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    Hollow points or FMJ in the backcountry?

    What do you think? When I go on long backpacking trips I usually choose to carry a .357 mag instead of a .44 mag because my .357 is so much lighter. When I go camping with the car or just for the weekend I will bring the .44

    If your carrying a 3" .357 mag in black bear and moose country would you carry SD HP's or FMJ? From a ballistic standpoint what would be a better choice to carry in the woods in that caliber?
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    HP is the answer, it gives great energy impact. FMJ will get exit wounds that will possible continue attack you or if it runs away will have slow dying with a lot of pain. My .02
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    My vote is HP, althought the FMJ gives a better wound trial for a bleed out that only works if the bear runs away from you.... No comfort in him bleeding out while he is ripping your head off..

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    Neither, BB 180 gr lead LFNGC
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    you need deep penetration but expansion would be nice also. no matter - unlikely one shot from a pistol is bringing down a bear. I've seen them take multiple 12ga. slugs from 20 feet and keep coming. Nearly always takes a head shot stop them instantly. Maybe stager HP and FMJ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guantes View Post
    Neither, BB 180 gr lead LFNGC
    Guantes may have a point - wasn't familiar with this load until now - looks pretty impressive for wild game/hunting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guantes View Post
    Neither, BB 180 gr lead LFNGC
    I have two boxes of these exact rounds I picked up at cabelas a couple months ago. These would probably be my choice but they are more than a handful out of a 3" .357. I'm not recoil sensitive but these things hurt! I shot 5 rounds and said that's enough. These are probably what I would carry in it but I was just curious, thanks guys.

    Unless I put the houge grips back on the ruger I can't even hang on to the thing with the tiny badger boot grips shooting those BB loads.
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    When fishing in bear country, (black bears) I carry a 649 with Corbon 200 Gr HC bullets. Really stout load, and at point blank range I feel they would do the trick....Better than a rock or a stick

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    I shoot them out of my 3" GP100 and that is what I carry hiking and we have BB's, moose, elk and griz although smaller than the northern ones. The 180s are stout, but not unmanagable.
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    I load federal 158gr. softpoint flat nose. Being in a totaly different area..... My main worry is feral hog, dog. Maybe a rabid cyote or mountain lion. Possible aggressive buck...father-in-law was attcked by one 'bout six years ago while clearing brush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guantes View Post
    I shoot them out of my 3" GP100 and that is what I carry hiking and we have BB's, moose, elk and griz although smaller than the northern ones. The 180s are stout, but not unmanagable.
    There not unmanageable with a good grip but with the small boot grip I have on there now I just can't hold on to the darn thing. Definitely a stout load! Sometimes I bring along the 10mm but I prefer the .357
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guantes View Post
    Neither, BB 180 gr lead LFNGC
    + 1. If don't have those, I do with FMJ's or tipped ammo.... for penetration when you are talking bears, etc. If you were talking coyotes and cougars, HP's..... they have thinner skin and skulls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guantes View Post
    Neither, BB 180 gr lead LFNGC
    if for defense for bear/cougar, then this... FMJ has a round nose, this is prone to recochete off a skull, and causes little damage... a flat point hard cast offers better penetrating and more damage, and it way more likely to penetrate a hard skull

    for coyotes, jhp

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    In black bear/moose country I'd carry 158 or 180 grain soft points. While FMJs will do better penetrating a skull or breaking bone, you can't count on those kinds of deliberate shots if you run into a nasty surprise. The semi-jacketed soft points will give you a good mix of expansion and penetration. Just make sure you launch a few at the range so you're prepared for the sound and the fury if you do have to use 'em. And carry a couple of speed strips with some more moderate stuff (like maybe the 158 gr .38 +P LSWCHP) to give you some options in the field.
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    What kind of critters you got up your way? I'm still trying to find a long enough trail up there.

    I'm personally planning on just going with my 9mm Hollowpoints

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