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Guard Dog taking over for HydraShok

This is a discussion on Guard Dog taking over for HydraShok within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I will be switching to Glazers for the summer months. Not as heavy a round, and not going THROUGH anything; just in. They are somewhat ...

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    I will be switching to Glazers for the summer months. Not as heavy a round, and not going THROUGH anything; just in. They are somewhat expensive, but I don't have to worry about my round going through the BG, and into the neighbor, or their kids.
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    Has anyone actually seen Guard Dog ammo on the shelves anywhere? I looked at the 4 places near me that the Federal site says carries it and so far, none of them have even heard of it. I want some, but I'm having a pretty hard time finding any.
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    Now in stock at sporting goods store such as Academy as well as local gun shops...20 round box street price around 27.00. For those wanting to try, the only advantage I see is if you have had trouble finding a non FMJ round that will feed properly.
    Very much a different product than ES AFR or glaser SS. I would think that if you wanted to go this route, you would be choosing one of those which will not even go through 1 insulated wall (two pieces of drywall), rather than this round which will go through at least 2.
    Not endorsing the round, just putting the locations I have seen it for sale.
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    In 40+ years of shooting I have seen "NEW...IMPROVED...BEST EVER...." ammo come out every few years. Spend your time at the range and quit looking for the 'magic one shot needed bullet.'

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    "Some are upset if the new bullets won't penetrate four (4) layers of wall material and then penetrate ballistic jello. Think about that. Should you really be shooting at someone two rooms away?"

    I agree, shouldn't be shooting at someone 4 walls away...but what if you need to shoot through a windshield? I want my bullet to have enough uummph to pull it off and still penetrate the target. There is a fine line between not enough penetration and too much. Hard to say but different scenarios call for different loads...sometimes I think we all overthink ammo.
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    If you need to shoot through a windshield, are they a direct threat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder71 View Post
    If you need to shoot through a windshield, are they a direct threat?
    I dunno...if they are armed, and going to do their best to harm you, would YOU consider it a threat?
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    The chances of me needing to shoot through a windshield, plywood, sheet metal to defend my life is near zero (unlike law enforcement that does traffic stops). Knowing how poorly pistol bullets perform on human targets, how inaccurate most are at hitting a critical part of the target to immediately stop the threat, and having to go through hard barrier. I'm probably not even going to stand there and try to gun down the target. I figure my chances of defending myself are much higher if I simply run.

    In an apartment/condo, the chances are much higher for the need to defend myself. And the last thing I would want is to fire through wall board and hit an innocent child or other victim, I would rather die in the attack. So I'd choose something that would be less danger to other innocents.

    Weighing those options, I'd choose my ballistics for apartment/condo.
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    For the children

    Quote Originally Posted by fastk9dad View Post
    In an apartment with shared walls, maybe children in another room in close proximity? I can see some uses for it. There is always the potential for missing your target and you don't want to kill an innocent bystander.
    Same argument I hear from those advocating using ineffective bird shot for HD. Seems the solution is more training and practice hitting your target under stress instead of preparing to miss using an anemic round.
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    I still can't find any of the Guard Dog ammo anywhere. Has anyone else had any luck actually spotting any on any store shelves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TN_Mike View Post
    I still can't find any of the Guard Dog ammo anywhere. Has anyone else had any luck actually spotting any on any store shelves?
    9x19mm: Ammunition To Go : 20rds - 9mm Federal Premium Guard Dog 105gr. EFMJ Ammo [PD9GRD] - $21.95

    .40 S&W: Ammunition To Go : 20rds - 40 S&W Federal Premium Guard Dog 135gr. EFMJ Ammo [PD40GRD] - $23.95

    [Note: I don't carry either of these (180gr HST), I was just posting for informational purposes!]
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    Nope.
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    Think I'll stick with my gold dots1

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    Interesting design though, an expanding bullet that isn't a hollowpoint.
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