Ammo superstition

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old School View Post
    What I really want is to find out what round Walker Texas Ranger uses to shoot those cars causing them to flip over and burst into flames. Now that is a round that legends are made of.
    It's a Chuck Norris round. Much to powerful for normal man. You would hurt yourself of you tried to use it.

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    9,40, and 45 are apples and orange to 357 mag. semi autos to wheel gun.

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    I think much of the modern hype came about from the "one shot stop" studies (take them or leave them, this is what they said) that gave the 125gr JHP in .375 Magnum the Numero Uno position. I don't, by any stretch of the imagination, think that these studies are gospel, but they did indicate that this particular load had the highest percentage of these mythical "one shot stops."
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    One thing that makes the .357 a caliber you should own a handgun in is that in a 6"+ barrel length it makes a dandy hunting round (Elmer Keith loved it for hunting I believe), you can get nice velocity in a fairly heavy bullet giving good expansion, penetration and bone breaking power. I have two, both Rugers; a classic 6" barrel Security Six and a new 6" GP100. I carry one or the other as a BUG when I hit our hunting club lease. The GP100 is what I carry on rainy days out hunting and the Security Six when its dry. I also hunt wild pigs with it, running them with dogs so its up close and personal which is perfect for a powerful handgun like a .357.

    Also, when you want to practice you can shoot mild mannered .38 Specials for low recoil. When you use target .38 loads it makes a really good step up for a new shooter from a .22, the recoil is easily handled by most everyone.

    Every handgunner should have a .357 in his/her gun safe.

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    One quick note, my Glock 33 is in 357 Sig, 125 grain rounds give the same velocity and thus performance as a .357 revolver in identical 125 grain bullet weight!

    Its nice to have a 11 shot 357!

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    I don't believe it is embellishment, nor superstition, With me, it comes from experience of shooting several different calibers and ammo over a long time and becoming convinced it is just the best overall round, with the most flexibility and uses .... that got me to the point of being more confident in the .357 than anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeShooter View Post
    One thing that makes the .357 a caliber you should own a handgun in is that in a 6"+ barrel length it makes a dandy hunting round (Elmer Keith loved it for hunting I believe), you can get nice velocity in a fairly heavy bullet giving good expansion, penetration and bone breaking power. I have two, both Rugers; a classic 6" barrel Security Six and a new 6" GP100. I carry one or the other as a BUG when I hit our hunting club lease. The GP100 is what I carry on rainy days out hunting and the Security Six when its dry. I also hunt wild pigs with it, running them with dogs so its up close and personal which is perfect for a powerful handgun like a .357.

    Also, when you want to practice you can shoot mild mannered .38 Specials for low recoil. When you use target .38 loads it makes a really good step up for a new shooter from a .22, the recoil is easily handled by most everyone.

    Every handgunner should have a .357 in his/her gun safe.

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    The reason that Elmer Keith favored it, was because he created it. He along with Dan Wesson and others. But it was Keith's experimentation with the .38 Special that gave birth to the magnum. Wikipedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeShooter View Post
    One quick note, my Glock 33 is in 357 Sig, 125 grain rounds give the same velocity and thus performance as a .357 revolver in identical 125 grain bullet weight!

    Its nice to have a 11 shot 357!

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    Yes, but, will it shoot those .38 Specials for target practice and small game hunting?

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    Years ago Winchester made a 158gr. SWC made with what they called Luballoy.
    One time in an old junk yard there was an old car (the kind actually made out of metal). Using a S&W Mod. 28, 4" barrel, I shot one of those bullets through the trunk lid, back seat, front seat, dash, firewall, and out a front fender. Some of the old studies on stopping power of bullets rated the SWC pretty high, partly because of the penetration capability and partly due to the flat nose. Sometimes though, penetration can be a drawback, if there is a shoot-through. Then of course, Remington marketed some pointed nose bullets in cartridges they listed as armor-piercing. Still have a couple of those from the old LEO days.

    If I could only have one handgun, it would probably be a .357 mag due to the versatility in loads available for plinking, target shooting, hunting and self-defense. Probably a S&W Mod. 27 or 28, maybe a Python, with speed loaders.

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    The .357 Magnum revolver is a grand choice for an "only gun."
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    I found an old junker in the backwoods in Alaska and put a .41 240 gr jacketed SWC thru the heavy metal fender of the '50s car and the bullet disappeared into the block. Don't know if the .357 would, but possibly.
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    If I had to have only one gun from now on the .357 Magnum would be my choice in a Colt Python 6 inch, I have one and several speedloaders including 4 Dade Speedloaders that are the one's used in Magnum Force the movie. I have several hundred "Social Ammo Rounds" in it and several thousand Nickle plated cartridges and several more thousand brass 38 special cartridges to load up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TedBeau View Post
    I had heard that the "stop a car engine" test was one of the test that the 357 was initially designed to perform. I heard this many years ago, but do not remember the source or the supposed agency/group or manufacturer supposeidly making the request.
    I have read that many many times too. Don't know if it is fact, but sounded believable to me.

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    I never tried .357 Magnum on a car engine but it puts a world of hurt on old Tecumseh lawn mower engines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmcgilvray View Post
    I never tried .357 Magnum on a car engine but it puts a world of hurt on old Tecumseh lawn mower engines.
    Me neither, I dont' like the ideas of ricochets, just in case.
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