This is a discussion on what are your thoughts for the best 9mm defensive ammo? within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Cat-O-Matic Have you tried Underwood Ammo? Its reliable & cheaper then Doubletap & they use Gold Dot ammo. Here's their link- 9mm ...
Last edited by TXOutfitter; June 15th, 2012 at 05:39 PM.
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Addressing the OP's question about the efficacy of 9mm bullets over 125 grains, from what I've read and observed, with the more recently developed bullet designs (HST, Gold Dot, Ranger, Golden Saber etc.), the heavier rounds should work fine, in terms of attaining optimal penetration and expansion. The article that the OP linked to was probably referring to the older 147 grain bullet designs that had a reputation for erratic expansion and a tendency to overpenetrate.
FWIW, I largely agree with YouTube user tnoutdoors9's stated practice of using 124 grain +P rounds during the warmer months (warmer weather --> people wear less clothes that a bullet has to penetrate to be effective; lower bullet weight --> less penetration), and 147 grain during the colder months (colder weather --> more clothing to penetrate; higher bullet weight --> more penetration). However, various law enforcement agencies issue the Speer Gold Dot 124 grain +P year-round and I haven't heard about any winter-specific stopping power failure horror stories, so I could just be talking out my butt here.
For the record, I currently have 147 grain Gold Dots in my M&P9, as I personally prefer Gold Dots and that's was what the local gun shop had in stock when I had money to spend on ammo.
As I'm sure was said somewhere in this thread, trying to find THE objective "best" just doesn't work, as each of us has different variables to contend with. "Best" for me may not be the "best" for someone else. You pays your money and you takes your chances.
This article has many good, valid points but there are a lot of dated invalid opinions such as "The 10mm is not living up to expectations" the author's views on 9mm ammunition are pretty interesting... the bad kind of interesting.
Recommending old bullet designs like Silvertips and Hydra-shocks is not good. Those bullets do not perform nearly as well as modern bullet designs like Ranger-Ts or HSTs. He also says the Federal 9BP load is "the world standard". While it certainly isn't the worst load, there are many better loads to carry since 20 years ago. The author also advocates carrying lighter weight bullets for most of the calibers in the article. For 9mm, this is another view that is 20-30 years too old. The modern view is that mid to heavy weight 9mm rounds superior to lighter bullets. Modern heavy bullets are far better than what they were in the 90's. I currently carry 147gr.
Also, separating handguns into classes by how well he thinks they will feed defensive ammo is bogus.
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There are a number of respected ammo brands out there. In my own research on the topic Speer Gold Dot or Federal HST (standard pressure or +P depending on the variables) keep coming up as favorites of both LE agencies & private citizens. Hornady Critical Duty & the 'ole granddaddy Federal HydraShok also receive positive reviews.
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Speer Gold dot 124gr +P Short Barrel is what I carry in my Nano.
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Im currently carrying federal 115 gr personal defense jhp standard pressure ,why? Cuz they are the bullet i can keep on the target with fast follow up shots. I dont care for the higher pressure loads cuz after the first shot ,you need to stay on target .
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