This is a discussion on 9MM SD Ammo within the Defensive Ammunition & Ballistics forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by LongRider It was a podcast from their radio show awhile back as I recall They dropped a charging boar like a sack ...
Here is the iTunes link scroll down to #63 Podcast 023 High Quality for Your Caliber. They have some other great topics, entertaining and informative. Hope that helps
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I carry either Federal HST 124+P,or Winchester Ranger 124+P T series,I carry the same brands in 40 and 45 also
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Of the 3 the OP asked about I would go with the bonded speer gd, less chance of jacket / core separation and more controlled expansion lead to better penetration. Having said that, I carry Federal HST 147 or 147 +p in my Glock g26 and yes, I realize they are not bonded, but still perform best IMHO for 9mm.
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From all my constant reading on even more threads, the consensus seems to be to choose a load that meets FBI criteria, and make sure the round has enough pressure to cycle a semi-auto. Other than that, the differences are not enough to make a real difference.
^ That's where I arrived, too.
The big thing is that after you've made a choice, that your chosen round cycles - feeds and fires - through your firearm without issue.
There's really no way I could have foreseen the HST not feeding ideally through my Kahr PM9, nor the Cor-Bon DPX not feeding well, at all, through my SR9c. You've got to do your due-diligence and give the rounds a first-hand evaluation.
CD ammo consistently gets between 11.2 and 12.3 inches in testing I've seen. It is designed to be easy to shoot and expand 100% of the time. That meant making a compromise on things like barrier penetration. It will work for 90% of the cases where a civilian has to actually shoot. I would not discount the round or disparage anyone that carried it.
For me I like to be ready for the other 10% of times a person might have to shoot. So, I carry 147gr Winchester Ranger Bonded. I would also carry Federal HST, Winchester Ranger T, or Speer Gold Dot. All of those rounds have a proven record in the real worlr.
LA County Sheriff's Departmet carried the Winchester Ranger T. The NYPD carrys Speer Gold Dot. I believe San Diego uses the HST. The department I work for issues the 180gr HST in .40 and will use the 124gr+p when they transition back to 9mm. The guys that trust their lives to handguns use those rounds for two reasons. They simply do the job and they do it consistently.
To the OP:
I would carry the Gold Dot. It is the LE round sold in 20 round boxes for civilians. Also, the Hydra Shoks are an older design that are inconsistent when going through fabric. The Golden Saber is also a bit older and has issues with the jacket seperating from the core.
Last edited by MikeNice; July 15th, 2011 at 09:22 PM. Reason: change penetrate to expand
9mm SD rounds are sure getting expensive. I carry Federal HST 147 Gr. +P, and I remember 2 or 3 years ago it was $19.99 a box/50 at ammo to go, now it's almost $30! Might as well carry. 40 or .357 Sig at those prices.
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