Public Defender & Birdshot?

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    Public Defender & Birdshot?

    I bought a Tarus Public Defender 2" SS .45 LC/.410 pistol.

    The other day I was shooting a variety of ammo through it.

    I like the blast of pellets from #4 Birdshot but liked the damage done by slugs or PDx ammo more.

    Is #4,6,8,or #9 shot usefull as a PD load?
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    NO.
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    Think I would rather have a good .22 rimfire pistol over a judge loaded with birdshot.

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    I wouldn't trust it at 7 yards to stop a threat,could leave a big nasty wound in the summer,and may not penetrate heavy jacket and clothing in the winter,I've shot too many small game with shotshells and a lot of them weren't killed outright,and as far as rabbit and squirrel found a lot of pellets in the fat just under the skin
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    One more voice in the chorus shouting "NO."
    Any of the buckshot offerings will be far more satisfying then birdshot in the defensive realm.
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    Go to your local wal-mart, they have started to carry Winchester PDX boxes that are half 410 shells and half 45 lc ammunition. Just a helpful FYI

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    PDX or Federal's hangun buckshot load are the only loads I would consider for defense with the .410, handgun or long gun.
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    Or this: cut slug assuming that it would not cause a problem at the forcing cone.

    Seriously though this is a long video but is a pretty thorough but not scientific test firing: JUDGE
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    I would use the .45 LC as your defense round.
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    Birdshot out of a long barreled shotgun is good for birds and mammals weighing less than ten pounds.

    Birdshot out of a Judge is good for mice, rats and small reptiles.
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    I would use the .45 LC as your defense round.
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    Buffalo Bore makes an awesome combat wadcutter in .45 LC.

    Could it be used as a PD? Sure it could, might not be that hot though.
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    Hey you guys heard of these folks Paraklese Technologies?

    They have a 4 ball(.375 size) 2 1/2" shell called 0000 buck this looks promising as does their slugs.
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    The bottom line is this, .410 ranges from marginal to completely unsuitable out of a long gun, it ain't gettin any better when you chop the barrel down to 2". Get .45lc loads for defense, or better yet, just use a more suitable gun.
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    Don't use birdshot, that will just make him mad!

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    They call it Birdshot for a reason

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