115gr +P+ 124gr +P

115gr +P+ 124gr +P

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    115gr +P+ 124gr +P

    I am just asking a question I don't get into ballistics and stuff however, both 115gr +P+ or 124gr +P will kill you but what are the benifits have having one over the other except the obvious the speed?
    You do not think the 9mm is effective? Then let me shoot at you.


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    Both would be dandy with proper bullet construction, providing of course, a perfect unobstructed frontal shot in the chest cavity

    I am confused by your signature if you do not understand or get into ballistics. What exactly do you base that on then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9 Micky Mouse View Post
    I am just asking a question I don't get into ballistics and stuff however, both 115gr +P+ or 124gr +P will kill you but what are the benifits have having one over the other except the obvious the speed?
    All other things being equal, heavier bullet weights give deeper penetration, especially through layers of clothing.
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    Is this a trick question?I mean by your signature you have contradicted post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockrocker View Post
    Is this a trick question?I mean by your signature you have contradicted post.
    You are right I just wanted to know. I have fired on people was just wondering if I had a lighter faster round would they have stopped sooner.
    You do not think the 9mm is effective? Then let me shoot at you.

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    Ignorance is a long way from stupid, but left unchecked, can get there real fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    Yup.

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    i have got better accuracy out of the 124gr bullets thru my xd sub compact? thats the only difference ive could tell you from my point ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorlk View Post
    All other things being equal, heavier bullet weights give deeper penetration, especially through layers of clothing.
    Exactly!! The lighter bullet speed factor seems really cool....until you watch a vid of one hitting ballistic gelatin and see the bullet disintegrate at about 7 or 8 inches in. Really lousy penetration. 147grain standard pressure 9mm's just cruise right on through with more than enough penetration for most social encounters. If you want speed with penetration, switch to a .357SIG in 147gr ...... Hornaday TAP 147gr, 1250 fps which is my carry load in my Glock 32 and 33.
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    According to Best Choices for Self Defense Ammo:

    "With the exception of the Barnes 115 gr XPB all copper projectile, in general, most 9 mm 115 gr loads have demonstrated greater inconsistency, insufficient penetration, poor intermediate barrier capability, and failure to expand in denim testing than other 9mm bullets. For those individuals wanting to use lighter weight, supersonic 9 mm’s, I think a better alternative than the vast majority of 115 gr loads is to use the slightly heavier 124 to 127 gr bullets or the Barnes 115 gr all copper bullet"

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    MO, go heavy or stay home...
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9 Micky Mouse View Post
    You are right I just wanted to know. I have fired on people was just wondering if I had a lighter faster round would they have stopped sooner.
    Oh, boy.
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    For me, cost mostly...

    Depends upon your pistol, accuracy could be slightly affected. All is good as long as your not 'key holing' paper targets.

    Heavier grain bullets will perform better with a slightly slower twist rate on the rifling whereas lighter and shorter bullets will engage the lands/grooves
    better when there is a slightly higher twist rate.

    Pressure ratings don't effect this enough to mention.

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