best sd ammo from 3' barrel

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    best sd ammo from 3' barrel

    I have a cm9 and have read not to use a 147 grain bullet because of the shorter barrel. Are there any bullets designed for short barrels to expand at lower velocity?

    Also just wondering what you would recommend between federal hst, speer gold dot, and winchester ranger t?
    Can these bullets be reliable to expand properly with the right grain out of 3' barrel, if so what grain is that?

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    Gold Dot short barrel ammo,wife carries it in the 124grain in her G26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler7654 View Post
    I have a cm9 and have read not to use a 147 grain bullet because of the shorter barrel. Are there any bullets designed for short barrels to expand at lower velocity?

    Also just wondering what you would recommend between federal hst, speer gold dot, and winchester ranger t?
    Can these bullets be reliable to expand properly with the right grain out of 3' barrel, if so what grain is that?

    Thanks
    I'm puzzled by "what you have read" on the 147 gr.? Both Speer Gold Dot short barrel and Winchester PDX 1 - bonded round seem to tout their short barrel proficiency. I carry either Speer GD +P or Ranger T +P in my PPS* when I need to slim down. My HK P2000 SKs get a dose of ranger t-series 9mm +P+ or 357 sig. The DT 357 sig 147 gr I'm just trying out. I owe that to the Glockman10mm and his pet attack elephant! and the cost those is mind numming!

    * on the PPS I've fianlly got one that will shoot JHP without "Failure to Feed" issues. Two trips to S & W CS and nine months later they finally send a new one that can actually work in an SD event!


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    I like the 147gr Golden Sabers out of my PPS. If you look at the links above,l I think you will see that any "loss" of velocity is minimal or virtually non-existant. GS is very accurate for me, and as a non- +P load great for that quick second-third shot. Did I mention it cost #14.95 per box of 25?

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    I'm of the impression that the higher grain weight is the way to go with the shorter barrels. RA9T Winchester Ranger 147gr T-series HP for me in my Kel-tec PF-9.
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    If I were feeding a 9mm with a 3-inch barrel, I'd play with the various 147 grain ammunition offerings first and foremost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler7654 View Post
    I have a cm9 and have read not to use a 147 grain bullet because of the shorter barrel. Are there any bullets designed for short barrels to expand at lower velocity?

    Also just wondering what you would recommend between federal hst, speer gold dot, and winchester ranger t?
    Can these bullets be reliable to expand properly with the right grain out of 3' barrel, if so what grain is that?

    Thanks
    Quite possibly we should forget about 'expanding projectiles' and stick with basics. More often than not, the FMJ still makes a hole. The end results of your encounter often hinge on when you quit shooting. If you think for a moment that your choice of ammo will have a better outcome with a one stop shot...then you've obviously been misled. You just keep shooting until you are no longer in danger. You don't shoot once and wait for a response in order to decide whether or not to shoot again. If you go out armed on the street these days, then you need to prepare for way more than a simple indecision about what ammo you have in your gun. Keep on the sunny side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockrocker View Post
    Gold Dot short barrel ammo,wife carries it in the 124grain in her G26.
    I second the Gold Dot Short Barrel 124 gr.

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    Did you misread the title? "best sd ammo from 3' barrel" A 3 foot barrel ain't no sub compact. :)
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    I bought some 147 gr Gold Dot ammo recently for duty use in my Glocks, for better barrier penetration (as an Auxiliary, I have to supply my own sidearm and ammo). I wondered if I should use this out of the short (3") barrel of my PM9. Searching around, I found this:

    9mm 147gr and Short Barrels - M4Carbine.net Forums

    Bottom line is that the 147 gr should work just fine, as it suffers less percentage velocity loss, compared to the faster/lighter rounds.

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    I've fed my CM9 both 124 +p and 147 Speer GD. I emailed Speer to get their opinion on it and they replied saying some like, Out of the short 3" barrel the 147 will lose too much velocity to penetrate deep enough and probably not expand either. They recommended the 124 +p. I've been curious about this myself.

    Edit: After reading 10thmtn's link now i'm a little confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ram Rod View Post
    Quite possibly we should forget about 'expanding projectiles' and stick with basics. More often than not, the FMJ still makes a hole. The end results of your encounter often hinge on when you quit shooting. If you think for a moment that your choice of ammo will have a better outcome with a one stop shot...then you've obviously been misled. You just keep shooting until you are no longer in danger. You don't shoot once and wait for a response in order to decide whether or not to shoot again. If you go out armed on the street these days, then you need to prepare for way more than a simple indecision about what ammo you have in your gun. Keep on the sunny side.
    Of course, there is that whole pesky thing about being responsible for where your bullets end up. I for one like expansion to stop over-penetration and hitting innocent people. Shoot the BG and kill a bystander with a pass through and you are going to jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smolck View Post
    Of course, there is that whole pesky thing about being responsible for where your bullets end up. I for one like expansion to stop over-penetration and hitting innocent people. Shoot the BG and kill a bystander with a pass through and you are going to jail.
    Agreed. Using FMJ bullets with 9mm is a really bad idea for the reasons mentioned above.
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