40 or 45?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExSoldier View Post
    THIRD is related to #2: 45 ammo is way cheaper than 40 caliber stuff in both target (FMJ) loads as well as defensive loads.
    Whaaaaaaaaaa!?

    .40 S&W 180 gr. Federal HST @ $18.95 per 50 - 50 rds - 40 Cal Federal HST 180 Grain Government Contract Ammo XM40HC | SGAmmo.com

    .40 S&W 155 gr. Federal HST @ $18.95 per 50 - 50 rds - 40 Cal Federal HST 155 Grain Government Contract Ammo XM40HB | SGAmmo.com

    .40 S&W 180 gr. Winchester Q4369 (FBI Carry Load) @ $15.99 per 50 - 50 rds - 40 cal 180 grain Bonded Hollow point Winchester Q4369 ammo | SGAmmo.com

    .40 S&W 180 gr. Aguila FMJ @ $12.95 per 50 - 50 rds - 40 cal 180 grain FMJ Aguila Ammo | SGAmmo.com

    And this is all from one website and I didn't include any Russian stuff...

    .45 ACP 230 gr. Aguila FMJ @ 14.95 per 50 - Special Purchase - 50 rds - 45 ACP / Auto 230 GR FMJ Brass Case Aguila Ammo | SGAmmo.com

    .45 ACP 230 gr. Winchester Ranger-T @ $25.95 per 50 - AMM-5160 - Ammo .45 ACP Winchester Ranger T Series 230 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point 885 fps 50 Round Box

    .45 ACP 230 gr. Federal HST @ $39.99 per 50 - Federal HST .45 ACP 230gr +P LE P45HST1 (50 Rounds)
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    45 hands down over the 40 S&W.
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    3, or is it triangle? Darn multiple choice....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    3, or is it triangle? Darn multiple choice....
    Pick "C"
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    .45 by far.
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    .40 by far. j/k. As mentioned before, it has more to do with shot placement than caliber.

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    Trigger control and shot placement is key but forget about both the .40 and .45 and get a .357 magnum!
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    I carry .40 S&W in my Stoeger Cougar and it puts slightly bigger hole in my target than a 9mm and slightly smaller hole than a .45!! Course WHERE you put it is what COUNTS!!!!!
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    Heads you win, tails you win. I carry both, a 25oz 3" Kimber 45 IWB and a 16oz PM40 in a back pocket (just in case I have to reach for my wallet...to heck with throw money).
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    The 45 has the edge in power especially in the 185 gr and 200 gr +P's ! A 185 gr +P puts out 534 ft-lbs of energy compared to 489 of a 155 gr 40 S&W.
    There's 200 and 230 grainer +P's that put out 500 + energy ! Magtech Gaurdian Gold 230 gr +P puts out 518 ft-lbs of energy. That's a big heavy bullet putting out 518 lbs of torque ! That will knock someone through a wall, or at least make them feel like they hit a wall ! Big bullets do throw more momentum than small bullets.
    There are nice 40 loads too like Hornady Critical Defense 165 gr load which puts out 500 ft-lbs of energy ! Either one is good but if your going for distance go with the 40.
    If you really want distance and energy go with the 357 Sig round. In the better loads like Corbon they mimic 357 Mag performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by multistage View Post
    Get both. I did.
    So did I. That way when I get up in the morning, I ask myself, "Is today a 40 day or 45 day?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGun4169 View Post
    The 45 has the edge in power especially in the 185 gr and 200 gr +P's ! A 185 gr +P puts out 534 ft-lbs of energy compared to 489 of a 155 gr 40 S&W.
    There's 200 and 230 grainer +P's that put out 500 + energy ! Magtech Gaurdian Gold 230 gr +P puts out 518 ft-lbs of energy. That's a big heavy bullet putting out 518 lbs of torque ! That will knock someone through a wall, or at least make them feel like they hit a wall ! Big bullets do throw more momentum than small bullets.
    There are nice 40 loads too like Hornady Critical Defense 165 gr load which puts out 500 ft-lbs of energy ! Either one is good but if your going for distance go with the 40.
    If you really want distance and energy go with the 357 Sig round. In the better loads like Corbon they mimic 357 Mag performance.

    Corbon's 135-40 caliber is one hot ammo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGun4169 View Post
    The 45 has the edge in power especially in the 185 gr and 200 gr +P's ! A 185 gr +P puts out 534 ft-lbs of energy compared to 489 of a 155 gr 40 S&W.
    There's 200 and 230 grainer +P's that put out 500 + energy ! Magtech Gaurdian Gold 230 gr +P puts out 518 ft-lbs of energy. That's a big heavy bullet putting out 518 lbs of torque ! That will knock someone through a wall,
    ROFL!!!!

    What a load of BS!!! Any round capable of doing that would, conversely, impart an equal amount of force on the shooter and sit him back on his butt. Simple physics.

    at least make them feel like they hit a wall !
    Major difference from your previous (nonsense) statement, and not guaranteed to happen, either.
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    made a mistake

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGun4169 View Post
    The 45 has the edge in power especially in the 185 gr and 200 gr +P's ! A 185 gr +P puts out 534 ft-lbs of energy compared to 489 of a 155 gr 40 S&W.
    There's 200 and 230 grainer +P's that put out 500 + energy ! Magtech Gaurdian Gold 230 gr +P puts out 518 ft-lbs of energy. That's a big heavy bullet putting out 518 lbs of torque ! That will knock someone through a wall, or at least make them feel like they hit a wall ! Big bullets do throw more momentum than small bullets.
    There are nice 40 loads too like Hornady Critical Defense 165 gr load which puts out 500 ft-lbs of energy ! Either one is good but if your going for distance go with the 40.
    If you really want distance and energy go with the 357 Sig round. In the better loads like Corbon they mimic 357 Mag performance.

    Until you see some real combact I can do without the BS of a 45 knocking you threw a wall! You watch to much TV!

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