.223 Brown Bear is Pretty Darn Good Stuff

.223 Brown Bear is Pretty Darn Good Stuff

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    .223 Brown Bear is Pretty Darn Good Stuff

    Practiced some trigger control for the first time out at the range today shooting at 100 yards with my M6. (Started shooting rifles about a month ago).

    Rifle - LWRC M6A3 16.1" (5.56 w/ 1:7 twist) with an EOTech HWS.

    Ammo - .223 Brown Bear (Russian) 55 gr. FMJ. [This stuff is a lot better than people give it credit it for, and I've now fired 1,600 malfunction free rounds of it...]

    5 Shot Group -


    Two 3 Shot Groups


    Gun -

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    the 75gr can get a bit iffy, but the 55 was always good

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    Not bad stuff but it can be dirty though.

    Still I have used it with no problems in my AR and my AK.

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    So far I've been able to find deals on American ammo at the right times, so I haven't tried any Brown Bear yet, but it's on my list. I typically seem to hear/read good things about it.
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    I don't like running the laquered stuff in my AR's. It builds up on the BCG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azchevy View Post
    I don't like running the laquered stuff in my AR's. It builds up on the BCG.
    I haven't had any problems. In fact, my BCG hardly even gets dirty, but it is a piston gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azchevy View Post
    I don't like running the laquered stuff in my AR's. It builds up on the BCG.
    I've heard that too so that is why I try to avoid laquered when I can find other ammo. Don't have as much of a problem running it in my AK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azchevy View Post
    I don't like running the laquered stuff in my AR's. It builds up on the BCG.
    myth.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ring View Post
    myth.....
    Realyl? I guess the two AR's I own and shoot are myths too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azchevy View Post
    Realyl? I guess the two AR's I own and shoot are myths too.
    are you doing beta mag dumps on your gun every time your at the range?

    if not, then its not happening..

    Military Arms Blog: Misinformation about Wolf Ammo


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    Wow someone posted a video on the internet so it must not have happened to me. Not sure what I has to scrape off the locking lugs and bcg but I guess it was a figment of my imagination. I am just a noob with zero experience with weapons so thanks for the enlightenment.

    That being said, I will never use any brown bear ammo in my ar's again because I don't want the build up in my weapon..... you can do what you want, that's what is great about this country. Freedom of choice and you get what you pay for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azchevy View Post
    Wow someone posted a video on the internet so it must not have happened to me. Not sure what I has to scrape off the locking lugs and bcg but I guess it was a figment of my imagination. I am just a noob with zero experience with weapons so thanks for the enlightenment.

    That being said, I will never use any brown bear ammo in my ar's again because I don't want the build up in my weapon..... you can do what you want, that's what is great about this country. Freedom of choice and you get what you pay for.
    Like inexpensive ammo that works great.

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    I've fired some brown bear, seems decent enough.

    However, picked up a couple of 2k round cases of Wolf from AIM ($399/2k delivered), and am quite pleased with it.

    All my rifles are DI, and really, can't see all that much difference between them and some XM193 and XM855 after a few hundred rounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ring View Post
    myth.....
    not hardly, my buddy's AR locked up, wouldn't eject spent casing, armorer had to beat the bolt back with a mallet....because a laquer coated steel case was lodged in after about 80 rounds, there was build up of laquer gunk from those rounds (rifle was spotless before shooting that day)
    I now own that AR, no changes were made to it, and it functions well with polymer-coated and brass, have had no malfunctions

    does it happen all the time? no
    does it happen? yes

    it does happen more often if you use steel case for awhile (without cleaning) then go to brass

    I don't use any laquer coated in my ARs but I do use the polymer-coated Wolf/Monarch, I do use the laquer coated and polymer in my AK

    the link you posted is talking about Wolf brand ammo, not specifically shooting a certain brand/type, laquer/polymer in an AR vs brass, he is referring to internet rumors about Wolf in general, not laquer coated vs other kinds, specifically the polymer coated as pictured on the page
    I agree with almost everything in his article
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    Wolf is great. It is the brown bear and I believe golden tiger that is junk. In my opinion and experiences.

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